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Originally posted by NWHSUandSDSU View PostIndiaba St has a non-counter win since it was a D2 school so their DI record would be 6-4 which may well keep them out.
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Interesting story from HERO Sports on how many MVFC teams make the postseason. Like most, they view NDSU and SDSU as virtual locks.
Per Sam Herder, HERO Sports: "The loser of the Illinois State and Indiana State is probably going to be eliminated from the playoffs because both have a non-counter win."
In regards to next week, Herder adds: "Depending on what happened the previous week, we could see another playoff elimination game between Indiana State and WIU."
The MVFC may not have the depth of teams qualifying for postseason play as usual, but it would be hard to imagine not having at least one team and possibly two teams playing in Frisco to end the season. I can also imagine having four teams playing in the second round of the playoffs.
A second story from HERO Sports has three different writers projecting their playoff field. Collectively they have Western Illinois, UNI, Illinois State, and Indiana State listed as bubble teams.
For the MVFC, the playoffs started last week and will likely continue through the next two Saturdays. I'd love to see five teams in, but I'm afraid at least one bubble will burst this week and don't rule out two bursting by midnight on November 17th.
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Idaho state, SEMO, Samford, and McNeese losing today means the bubble is opening up some.
You figure that the CAA will take at least 4 of the 14 at large bids. The Big Sky will for sure take two more at larges. The Valley will for sure take one more at large.
That leaves seven at large spots left. In no particular order, the teams fighting for those seven spots are:
Montana/Montana State winner
Indiana State with 6 DI wins
Idaho State with 6 DI wins
The 6th place CAA team at 7-4
8-3 SEMO
8-3 Monmouth
Wofford @ 8-3
Furman @ 7-4
UND @ 7-4
NCA&T @ 8-3 and out of the Celebration Bowl
UIW/Nicholls (depending on who gets the Southland auto)
6-5 WIU
6-5 ISUR
6-5 UNI
Not a lot to choose from. I'm guessing the southland will steal another bid, in addition to amother one from the Big Sky. That brings us down to 5 left. The Socon will probably take one more with an at large, maybe two. 3-4 bids left is my guess.
Honestly, if that scenario unfolds, I don't know how you can't give the CAA 5 at larges. They'll have the bulk of the 7-4 or 8-3 teams in at large contention, and most of them have at least one good win. If you don't take 6 from the CAA and 4 from the Big Sky, you'll almost certainly be taking the #3 Southland/#2 OVC, #2 Big South teams to fill out the field. Crazy year.
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It's a real shame the Ivy, SWAC, and MEAC don't participate in the field. Instead of talking about the merits of a 6-4 Indiana state vs 8-3 Monmouth, we would have a 10-0 Princeton, 9-1 Dartmouth, 8-3 Alcorn State, and possibly a 7-3 Penn to fill up the field. At least this year we might get to see how NCA&T stacks up, unless FAMU slips up and gives the celebration bowl back to the Aggies.Last edited by Mr_Tibbs; 11-10-2018, 10:56 PM.
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Originally posted by Mr_Tibbs View PostIdaho state, SEMO, Samford, and McNeese losing today means the bubble is opening up some.
You figure that the CAA will take at least 4 of the 14 at large bids. The Big Sky will for sure take two more at larges. The Valley will for sure take one more at large.
That leaves seven at large spots left. In no particular order, the teams fighting for those seven spots are:
Montana/Montana State winner
Indiana State with 6 DI wins
Idaho State with 6 DI wins
The 6th place CAA team at 7-4
8-3 SEMO
8-3 Monmouth
Wofford @ 8-3
Furman @ 7-4
UND @ 7-4
NCA&T @ 8-3 and out of the Celebration Bowl
UIW/Nicholls (depending on who gets the Southland auto)
6-5 WIU
6-5 ISUR
6-5 UNI
Not a lot to choose from. I'm guessing the southland will steal another bid, in addition to amother one from the Big Sky. That brings us down to 5 left. The Socon will probably take one more with an at large, maybe two. 3-4 bids left is my guess.
Honestly, if that scenario unfolds, I don't know how you can't give the CAA 5 at larges. They'll have the bulk of the 7-4 or 8-3 teams in at large contention, and most of them have at least one good win. If you don't take 6 from the CAA and 4 from the Big Sky, you'll almost certainly be taking the #3 Southland/#2 OVC, #2 Big South teams to fill out the field. Crazy year.
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Originally posted by CappinHard View Post*whispers* the field is too big, it should only be 16
I think 24 would be perfect if we had the IVY/MEAC/SWAC champions in the field too. This year, including those conferences would add in at least 4 quality teams to the field. 24 without them means we have to fill in those slots with #2 and #3 teams from places like the Ohio Valley.
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Originally posted by Evolution Prime View PostOnly way to get back to 16 is to start revoking auto bids. Since it is a NCAA sponsored postseason, at-large bids must at least equal auto bids. Lowest we can get to right now is 20. I guess that would be a start.
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Back then, the Pioneer didn't have an autobid, the Big South only started offering football in 2002, and I believe the NEC did not have a bid either. The Patriot may not have also had an auto bid back then either, but I'm not entirely sure. Back then, most conferences that didn't offer any/full scholarship numbers were not eligible for an automatic bid. I believe the NEC is still capped at 45 full scholarships today, but I could be wrong.
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Originally posted by CappinHard View PostI did not know that. When it was 16 teams, were there only 8 auto bids? Did 2 conferences get added?
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Originally posted by thumper_76 View PostWhat really needs to happen is to do away with the bus rule, but that will never happen.
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Originally posted by Evolution Prime View PostHow about the bus-rule for the 1st round games, then re-seed those winners and send them off to their respective matchups. Though I could see the top 8 seeds not liking it as is basically takes away a week of focusing on only two teams.
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Originally posted by Mr_Tibbs View PostYes. I'm okay with 24, because it adds more schools and fan bases into the post season, which is fun. It doesn't help the games be more competitive, but I'm not sure they would be if they went back to 16 today either. People like to point out how exciting the field was when it was 16, but they fail to mention that part of what made it exciting back then was the GSU/App State/Marshall/UMass teams of the division making it more comoetitive. Back then, Delaware, Montana, and McNeese were all at the top of the standings too, which added a lot to it. So I'm not sure if going back to 16 would automatically make the first round games better than the current set up. It would certainly make things more cut and dry.
I think 24 would be perfect if we had the IVY/MEAC/SWAC champions in the field too. This year, including those conferences would add in at least 4 quality teams to the field. 24 without them means we have to fill in those slots with #2 and #3 teams from places like the Ohio Valley.
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