USD - Joe Glenn

[JimmyJack]

Re: USD - Joe Glenn

No news today on the salary. South Dakota media fail, day 2. Ask the question, report the answer (or non-answer.) Simple as that.

[MaddogJack]

Re: USD - Joe Glenn

This is not difficult. If USD won't agree to "divulge" that information, that should become the story. If they're smart, they'll just say what it is and get on with things.

Everything that has been offered about the hiring of Coach Glenn, in my opinion, is nothing more than a press release on behalf of the University. SOFTBALLS (slowpitch, at that)

I'm sure that the hard hitting Argus Sports Editor will be all over this, as it is the Argus that was all over Governor Rounds about full disclosure and transparency of everyone that ever used the public toilets at the Capitol in Pierre.

It's a nice hire for the U, but we should know the details.

[JimmyJack]

Re: USD - Joe Glenn

State fiscal years run from July 1 to June 30. I can't imagine that he won't start working before July 1, 2012. His salary is our business the minute he starts working. New professors start in August and they go onto the state open records Web site that same month.

Here's how this works:

Reporter: What are the terms of USD's agreement with Joe Glenn? When does he start working? How much is he being paid? Are there sources of income for him other than his base salary? What are they? What is his total annual compensation?

This is not difficult. If USD won't agree to "divulge" that information, that should become the story. If they're smart, they'll just say what it is and get on with things.

[joeboo22]

Re: USD - Joe Glenn

Do they have to file the contract somewhere? My guess is they would like this contract to be kept under raps until the state at least proposes a budget. I know its different but to think that the state wouldn't be more inclined to give fewer dollars to the colleges if they found out the new coach is making X% more then the previous one is insane.

I know contracts are year to year, and since we are in the fiscal year he won't have to be reported until next year, but I find it hard to believe that its not available somewhere before hand.

[goon]

Re: USD - Joe Glenn

intransigence.

I learned something today.

[Prairiehaas]

Re: USD - Joe Glenn

This is a consideration whenever a position opens up. My own opinion, if your employed by someone who is going to prevent you from pursuing a positions you desire your in a bad position right now. You are right, I'm more curious than I am furious.

Very true and something for the younger people to keep in mind.

[bigticket1]

Re: USD - Joe Glenn

I have to think we may never know this. Although we may be curious about it, we might not want to know. Revealing this information could damage those coaches relationships in the jobs they currently hold. Further, if a precedent is set where this information is revealed to the public, it may cause future applicants to think twice about applying for coaching jobs at our universities.

This is why most major universities go through "head-hunter" search firms to find candidates. That way the school can deny contacting coaches to check on interest,and vice versa.

[JimmyJack]

Re: USD - Joe Glenn

Please refer to my previous posts regarding certain sportswriters in the Yankton area. Breaking a story (especially one this predictable) is not as important as reporting on the hard facts. Salary, benefits, others who were interviewed or considered for the position are a few facts I'd like to know. Was there due process or was this an inside job? It's a state institution and these should be open to public review.

Agreed. At least Jeremy mentioned salary as a key issue to be explored and even offered some contextual information (Meierkort's salary). We didn't get that from others.

[SF_Rabbit_Fan]

Re: USD - Joe Glenn

I am pretty sure 99% of SDSU grads don't know our school song. I know i don't. I just clap with everyone else.

You are correct, I don't know it either. I didn't mean it to be as critical as it came off, just one example of how the press conference was awkward.

[jackmd]

Re: USD - Joe Glenn

I have to think we may never know this. Although we may be curious about it, we might not want to know. Revealing this information could damage those coaches relationships in the jobs they currently hold. Further, if a precedent is set where this information is revealed to the public, it may cause future applicants to think twice about applying for coaching jobs at our universities.

This is a consideration whenever a position opens up. My own opinion, if your employed by someone who is going to prevent you from pursuing a positions you desire your in a bad position right now. You are right, I'm more curious than I am furious.

[HadleyCoyote]

Re: USD - Joe Glenn

...others who were interviewed or considered for the position are a few facts I'd like to know.

I have to think we may never know this. Although we may be curious about it, we might not want to know. Revealing this information could damage those coaches relationships in the jobs they currently hold. Further, if a precedent is set where this information is revealed to the public, it may cause future applicants to think twice about applying for coaching jobs at our universities.

[Nidaros]

Re: USD - Joe Glenn

That would be fair. He's probably worth even more. No, it's not the amount that grinds my gears. It's the fact that reporters didn't push for that information. Normally, I stick to my research on my blog (http://fbihistorian.org). But here's a blog post I wrote this morning on the subject:

http://fbihistorian.org/post/1382527...ry-information

Good points. Thanks for sharing your blogspot. With the fragile budgets at USD and SDSU both, I do not seem much movement towards multi year contracts. Glenn is doing this out of loyality and supplementing his retirement pay. We do need to know what Glenn is receiving though as it will no doubt impact future negiotations for our coaches as well. I would be interested to know what his settlement with Wyoming was in total dollars. Apparently its enought to live on. I heard stories in the Fargo area about Don Morton and his settlement after being released by Wisconsin. He got a pretty comfortable settlement.

[jackmd]

Re: USD - Joe Glenn

"Glenn's salary was not divulged Monday." Are you kidding me?

You either get the answer to that question or feature their stonewalling in your story. Total fail by South Dakota media. How often is a high-profile, six-figure coach hired by a public university in this state? Every coach hiring reported on ESPN includes salary. But no, not here. Even South Dakota journalists fear being seen as "impolite." Sorry for the rant, but that is Journalism 101. You cannot tell me that if an Argus reporter or editor put his foot down that USD would still have refused to "divulge" the salary. And if they did, they need to be called out for their intransigence. Second sentence of the story: "USD Athletic Director David Sayler refused to divulge Glenn's salary." Why would you say that? Because they refused to talk about the salary. That's called a fact and journalists are paid to "divulge" them. I would also argue that for the typical reader, salary is one of the most important facts about this story.

Regarding the hire itself. Looks like a good one. Glenn's enthusiasm will draw fans and should get them through any growing pains in the next couple of years. And he obviously knows how to coach.

Please refer to my previous posts regarding certain sportswriters in the Yankton area. Breaking a story (especially one this predictable) is not as important as reporting on the hard facts. Salary, benefits, others who were interviewed or considered for the position are a few facts I'd like to know. Was there due process or was this an inside job? It's a state institution and these should be open to public review.

[JimmyJack]

Re: USD - Joe Glenn

My guess is that it's in the 150k range, and maybe some incentives built in. After all he was talking about giving back to his alma mater and the state who he owed much. I dont think he will be getting real big bucks, and no where near Craig Bohl a non-alum who is supposely getting 325k. The Howling Pack is going to have to catch up with the Teamakers in order to pay that kind of money for a coach. I agree, the media did not pursue this question very well.

That would be fair. He's probably worth even more. No, it's not the amount that grinds my gears. It's the fact that reporters didn't push for that information. Normally, I stick to my research on my blog (http://fbihistorian.org). But here's a blog post I wrote this morning on the subject:

http://fbihistorian.org/post/1382527...ry-information

[Nidaros]

Re: USD - Joe Glenn

"Glenn's salary was not divulged Monday." Are you kidding me?

You either get the answer to that question or feature their stonewalling in your story. Total fail by South Dakota media. How often is a high-profile, six-figure coach hired by a public university in this state? Every coach hiring reported on ESPN includes salary. But no, not here. Even South Dakota journalists fear being seen as "impolite." Sorry for the rant, but that is Journalism 101. You cannot tell me that if an Argus reporter or editor put his foot down that USD would still have refused to "divulge" the salary. And if they did, they need to be called out for their intransigence. Second sentence of the story: "USD Athletic Director David Sayler refused to divulge Glenn's salary." Why would you say that? Because they refused to talk about the salary. That's called a fact and journalists are paid to "divulge" them. I would also argue that for the typical reader, salary is one of the most important facts about this story.

Regarding the hire itself. Looks like a good one. Glenn's enthusiasm will draw fans and should get them through any growing pains in the next couple of years. And he obviously knows how to coach.

My guess is that it's in the 150k range, and maybe some incentives built in. After all he was talking about giving back to his alma mater and the state who he owed much. I dont think he will be getting real big bucks, and no where near Craig Bohl a non-alum who is supposely getting 325k. The Howling Pack is going to have to catch up with the Teamakers in order to pay that kind of money for a coach. I agree, the media did not pursue this question very well.