DII Women's Basketball National Championship Smack

[68 Jackrabbit]

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SUPERBUNNY


Thanks!

[Coyote_Fan]

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SDSU fan once again only rely on the past when it favors them and favors them only. That illustrious football history is nice isn't it. By the way USD is one of if not the only current or former NCC team to play in the national championship game in Mens Basketball, Women's Basketball and Football. How about that great historic SDSU football program. Not only didn't you win a playoff game you barely even gained positive yardage. Of course adding the fact that SDSU is the only Dakota D1 team to lose at home to a D3 school. You will always have that eye sore (of no playoff success let alone participation) to deal with and by the way still haven't won a legitimate conference title in almost a half century. Speaking of Women's basketball how about that loss at home to that juggernaut Creighton program.

[2002jack]

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Of course adding the fact that SDSU is the only Dakota D1 team to lose at home to a D3 school.

I'm guessing this comment is going to come back and bite you in the arss. We'll see how you fare in the transistion.

[jackrabit1]

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At least we never lost to an NAIA team in football... you get FOUR chances to do that next year... best pray that you don't or you'll NEVER hear the end of it!

Oh, and by the way... after that game, we not only finished with a 7 game win streak, but we also finished in the top-25.. in DIVISION ONE. USD has a LOOOOONG way to go before they could even be considered our equals.

And you have the GALL to come up to our house and call us ARROGANT?!? We may be a little arrogant, but at least the sky is blue in our world!

[Coyote_Fan]

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I'm guessing this comment is going to come back and bite you in the arss. We'll see how you fare in the transistion.

I am not worried about those types of things, just pointing out that not everything is winning up at SDSU. I have said my share of critical comments about USD so I am not going to be surprised when some struggles happen during the transition. My biggest point is that there is a giant perception among many coming from up north that USD will not be competitive with SDSU or have even close to as much or more success at any sport than SDSU has had since the transition or will have. If you take the stance that USD could likely be a huge threat than you aren't going to be as shocked if USD does beat SDSU in some sports. If you take the stance that SDSU is far superior and that USD is only a wannabe that will hardly ever be competitive in any sport with SDSU than you will very likely be disappointed. It all in the stance you take.

[1bunnies]

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SDSU fan once again only rely on the past when it favors them and favors them only. That illustrious football history is nice isn't it. By the way USD is one of if not the only current or former NCC team to play in the national championship game in Mens Basketball, Women's Basketball and Football. How about that great historic SDSU football program. Not only didn't you win a playoff game you barely even gained positive yardage. Of course adding the fact that SDSU is the only Dakota D1 team to lose at home to a D3 school. You will always have that eye sore (of no playoff success let alone participation) to deal with and by the way still haven't won a legitimate conference title in almost a half century. Speaking of Women's basketball how about that loss at home to that juggernaut Creighton program.

Can't wait to see how usd2 does in that illegitimate conference called the Great West next season. The top 2 teams are leaving and I bet usd2 doesn't win half their conference games this fall.

[jacksfaninne]

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SDSU fan once again only rely on the past when it favors them and favors them only. That illustrious football history is nice isn't it.

USD fan once again changes the subject when he finally realizes he's SOL on the topic at hand.

[Coyote_Fan]

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Can't wait to see how usd2 does in that illegitimate conference called the Great West next season. The top 2 teams are leaving and I bet usd2 doesn't win half their conference games this fall.

I don't beat around the bush. USD probably won't win half of their games. They only play 3 and one is at Poly which will be next to an automatic loss. They might stand a chance at So Utah and who knows about UND. USD hasn't played well on the road against decent D2 teams so that doesn't bode well for their chances playing most of their tough D1 games on the road. The program will have to develop a better pass defense, better discipline and a better mental toughness if they are to stand much of a chance in those road games. I think the talent isn't so bad, it's the correctable things that never seem to be corrected that has been killing the Yotes lately.

[1stRowFANatic]

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Coyote Fan,
Your arrogance is unbelievable. You state that SDSU was in an illegitimate football conference, yet your team will be in that conference next year and that does not reflect negatively on USD.
You claim that only SDSU fans are biased in their opinions because if YOU bring up history it is OK, but if SDSU fans do it, history is irrelevant to the here and now.
You are a hypocrite and I am done reading your posts.

[jackrabbit1979]

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USD fan once again changes the subject when he finally realizes he's SOL on the topic at hand.

Exactly.

[BornBredBunny]

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[quote=Coyote_Fan;81178]I don't beat around the bush. USD probably won't win half of their games. They only play 3 and one is at Poly which will be next to an automatic loss. They might stand a chance at So Utah and who knows about UND. USD hasn't played well on the road against decent D2 teams so that doesn't bode well for their chances playing most of their tough D1 games on the road. The program will have to develop a better pass defense, better discipline and a better mental toughness if they are to stand much of a chance in those road games. I think the talent isn't so bad, it's the correctable things that never seem to be corrected that has been killing the Yotes lately.[/quote]

A) Yes, the talent IS so bad -- you're about to find out the hard way but don't say we haven't tried to warn you!

B) Doesn't that bother you? If the problems are correctable (I argue they aren't but that's an entirely different thread) and they aren't getting corrected; that would drive me nuts! USD has had it's opportunities to turn A corner (not THE Corner, but A corner) in it's football program for a couple of years now and these "correctable" problems are what's stopping you red-headed step children but they never 'seem' to get corrected.......Coaching? Institutional arrogance? Combination of both? Lack of tradition? Inferiority complex? Overall incredible ability to make excuses? Passing the blame? What the real problem here? Could be any or all of these but if my institution finally wised up and decided to follow our lead and make the jump to D1 with a list of 'problems' like this; the last place I would be is on this website running my mouth!!!!!

GO RABBITS!!!

[Coyote_Fan]

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Coyote Fan,
Your arrogance is unbelievable. You state that SDSU was in an illegitimate football conference, yet your team will be in that conference next year and that does not reflect negatively on USD.
You claim that only SDSU fans are biased in their opinions because if YOU bring up history it is OK, but if SDSU fans do it, history is irrelevant to the here and now.
You are a hypocrite and I am done reading your posts.

This statement is so full of inaccuracies that it's rather unbelievable. Just because I think a conference is illegitimate doesn't mean that I don't respect the programs that are in that particular alliance. You could put the top 5 programs in D1 FCS all in a 5 team conference and I will still think the conference is illegitimate. It's not about the teams themselves, it's about the conference structure they are in that I don't think is legit. As far as your second paragraph and how it is worded is false as well. When I bring up history I don't do it when it's only convenient to USD. If you would know me and read what I say I have taken more than my fair share of shots at USD. I am objective whereas most SDSU posters are very biased towards their school. You will hardly ever hear of SDSU poster be honest in their opinion when it is unfavorable to them.

A perfect example is with Women's basketball. There are many that believe that there is no way that USD is within 20 points of SDSU. I can't say for sure how it would go but I do caution that it's quite a bold predicition to assume that SDSU would wipe the floor with USD (meaning by 20 or more on average) when the teams haven't played. There are alot of direct comparisons that don't point to that much of a margin between the two teams. Of course those facts aren't taken seriously by many SDSU fans because they don't necessarily put SDSU 20 points ahead of USD in a head to head matchup. In a hypothetical situation there could be 10 factors that put the teams on a near even level but if there was 1 that gives SDSU the advantage those same fans will point out the exception and ignore all the other relevant factors that might point to a close game.

[Coyote_Fan]

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[QUOTE=BornBredBunny;81193]

I don't beat around the bush. USD probably won't win half of their games. They only play 3 and one is at Poly which will be next to an automatic loss. They might stand a chance at So Utah and who knows about UND. USD hasn't played well on the road against decent D2 teams so that doesn't bode well for their chances playing most of their tough D1 games on the road. The program will have to develop a better pass defense, better discipline and a better mental toughness if they are to stand much of a chance in those road games. I think the talent isn't so bad, it's the correctable things that never seem to be corrected that has been killing the Yotes lately.[/quote]

A) Yes, the talent IS so bad -- you're about to find out the hard way but don't say we haven't tried to warn you!

B) Doesn't that bother you? If the problems are correctable (I argue they aren't but that's an entirely different thread) and they aren't getting corrected; that would drive me nuts! USD has had it's opportunities to turn A corner (not THE Corner, but A corner) in it's football program for a couple of years now and these "correctable" problems are what's stopping you red-headed step children but they never 'seem' to get corrected.......Coaching? Institutional arrogance? Combination of both? Lack of tradition? Inferiority complex? Overall incredible ability to make excuses? Passing the blame? What the real problem here? Could be any or all of these but if my institution finally wised up and decided to follow our lead and make the jump to D1 with a list of 'problems' like this; the last place I would be is on this website running my mouth!!!!!

GO RABBITS!!!

Just ask Terry Vandrovec what he thought of the talent at USD when he watched them. He certainly has no reason to be biased for USD so just go ahead and ask him what he though.

[Rabbitlivinginverm]

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Coyote Fan, did you ever once question the legitimacy of the Great West Football Conference before SDSU won the title last year?

[jackmd]

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[QUOTE=Coyote_Fan;81222]

Just ask Terry Vandrovec what he thought of the talent at USD when he watched them. He certainly has no reason to be biased for USD so just go ahead and ask him what he though.

I, for one, would be happy to discuss this with TV. There are plenty of us who have watched a lot more basketball than he has. My bet, if you asked him today, he'd say that SDSU would defeat USD head-to-head in women's basketball. He might not be as confident as some on this site (understandable) but I think he'd favor SDSU pretty strongly. I could be wrong. Oh yeah, almost forgot, it doesn't matter.

Facts: SDSU 2003 DII National Champions, only appearance in the championship game and we got it done. This was in the days when NDSU, the dominant team in NCC women's basketball history was still DII. Not a fluke either, 2002 lost in the semis of the elite 8. 2004 regional champs. Successful transition to DI marked by a conference chamionship and 2 straight post-season appearances advancing to the quarterfinals of the WNIT.

Fact: USD lost in the DII National Championship game to what most would say is a lesser team. Graduating 4 starters and starting the transition with a new coach, no conference, no scheduling alliance (yet) and a multi-purpose facility that will make scheduling even more difficult.

If it mattered I'd take our women anyday of the week as I would argue most objective people (which, with regards to this issue I'll admit that I'm not) would.