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Re: No. 15 For Mav 1 (aka-MavD2)
I will chime in on this topic. It is fair to say that most on this board are saying there is a significant difference between D2 and D1AA. My biggest question would be if that were true you would think that any D2 teams making the jump to D1AA would struggle for at least a few years to get use the superior talent level. Most of the D2 teams that made the jump have been very competive with the new division and have been pretty much within the first year or two after the jump. If I recall the great west has many of their teams that are new to D1AA but they have done quite well against the Big Sky conference which is an established D1AA conference. If your argument hold merit of D1AA being significantly better it's just not reasonable for a D2 team to make the jump to 1AA and be competitive right away. It just makes no sence. What that is saying is the the NCC as a conference is at the 1AA level or if not are very, very close.
SDSU has done very little to improve their team since they made the jump. Just a few more scholarships and the same coach that they had when they were an average NCC team. I think most of you would agree that SDSU is really not any better (or at least not much more) than when they left divison 2.
USD on the otherhand is heads and shoulders better than they were 2 years ago when the last time they played SDSU. Even in that game aside from the two long touchdown passes the game was a virtual draw. But as we know those TD's make the game so it is a pathetic excuse but you get my point. The last time USD had a semi good team was the year 2000 when they went 8-3 under John Austin. That team isn't of the caliber of the current USD team but they won fairly easily up at Coughlin Alumni that year.
Isn't it fair to say that some of the upper D2 teams have alot of D1 talent on their rosters. Maybe not the depth of talent but good talent none the less. Logan, Beshorner, Gearman and many of the lineman on the offfensive line are of D1 caliber. UNO has one of the better D2 defenses and didn't slow the Coyote offense down barely at all. USD has never been able to do that to other NCC teams in the past. This year they are so far. The top 4 in the NCC are every bit as good this year as they have been when the NCC was still an intact 10 teams league.
When you had Ranek on your team I would bet that if you polled your fans that year that at least 80% of them would have considered him not only a D1 caliber player but a good one at that. Unfortunately the defense couldn't put it together for you the same years or you could have been a major title contender those years.
Wouldn't it be fair to say that this USD team is at least as good as the SDSU team that left D2? This USD team is doing some things that SDSU never did anytime in their recent NCC past. So if SDSU could make the jump as an average NCC team wouldn't it be fair to say that USD as the top 1 or 2 NCC teams would have as good of a chance as SDSU has had to be competitive in D1AA. SDSU as a mediocre team in the 90's should have beaten Montana on the road when they were at the top of the D1AA mountain. Only a miraculous comeback prevented an SDSU win that day. NDSU did win as an average to above average NCC team just a couple of years ago. We are talking about a lower division team going into an upper echelon D1AA team and being competive. Imagine if those D1AA teams had returned the favor and played on the NCC teams home field. I think NCC teams would pick up a few wins in those instances.
I am fine if you think that SDSU is better than USD but don't just use the D1AA label as a reason because that doesn't necessarily and hasn't previously always been the telling tale. If some of you want to make fun of USD for barely beating Mines in a tough situation on the road at high altitude with a team that hadn't yet had to play a 4 quarter game then what is your excuse when SDSU lost out at Chadron not all that long ago?
Instead of using generalizations as to why SDSU would win it would be nice to hear what SDSU has done this year to make you think they would beat USD who is on caliber with some of the teams you are currently playing and I don't mean LaCross. If USD is good enough to embarass UNO than they are good enough to at least slightly edge out SDSU. Because not too long ago SDSU was losing to the same basic UNO team with basically the same players and same coaches. Don't tell me that this SDSU team is heads and shoulders above the team from 2 years ago because it's just not true.
I will chime in on this topic. It is fair to say that most on this board are saying there is a significant difference between D2 and D1AA. My biggest question would be if that were true you would think that any D2 teams making the jump to D1AA would struggle for at least a few years to get use the superior talent level. Most of the D2 teams that made the jump have been very competive with the new division and have been pretty much within the first year or two after the jump. If I recall the great west has many of their teams that are new to D1AA but they have done quite well against the Big Sky conference which is an established D1AA conference. If your argument hold merit of D1AA being significantly better it's just not reasonable for a D2 team to make the jump to 1AA and be competitive right away. It just makes no sence. What that is saying is the the NCC as a conference is at the 1AA level or if not are very, very close.
SDSU has done very little to improve their team since they made the jump. Just a few more scholarships and the same coach that they had when they were an average NCC team. I think most of you would agree that SDSU is really not any better (or at least not much more) than when they left divison 2.
USD on the otherhand is heads and shoulders better than they were 2 years ago when the last time they played SDSU. Even in that game aside from the two long touchdown passes the game was a virtual draw. But as we know those TD's make the game so it is a pathetic excuse but you get my point. The last time USD had a semi good team was the year 2000 when they went 8-3 under John Austin. That team isn't of the caliber of the current USD team but they won fairly easily up at Coughlin Alumni that year.
Isn't it fair to say that some of the upper D2 teams have alot of D1 talent on their rosters. Maybe not the depth of talent but good talent none the less. Logan, Beshorner, Gearman and many of the lineman on the offfensive line are of D1 caliber. UNO has one of the better D2 defenses and didn't slow the Coyote offense down barely at all. USD has never been able to do that to other NCC teams in the past. This year they are so far. The top 4 in the NCC are every bit as good this year as they have been when the NCC was still an intact 10 teams league.
When you had Ranek on your team I would bet that if you polled your fans that year that at least 80% of them would have considered him not only a D1 caliber player but a good one at that. Unfortunately the defense couldn't put it together for you the same years or you could have been a major title contender those years.
Wouldn't it be fair to say that this USD team is at least as good as the SDSU team that left D2? This USD team is doing some things that SDSU never did anytime in their recent NCC past. So if SDSU could make the jump as an average NCC team wouldn't it be fair to say that USD as the top 1 or 2 NCC teams would have as good of a chance as SDSU has had to be competitive in D1AA. SDSU as a mediocre team in the 90's should have beaten Montana on the road when they were at the top of the D1AA mountain. Only a miraculous comeback prevented an SDSU win that day. NDSU did win as an average to above average NCC team just a couple of years ago. We are talking about a lower division team going into an upper echelon D1AA team and being competive. Imagine if those D1AA teams had returned the favor and played on the NCC teams home field. I think NCC teams would pick up a few wins in those instances.
I am fine if you think that SDSU is better than USD but don't just use the D1AA label as a reason because that doesn't necessarily and hasn't previously always been the telling tale. If some of you want to make fun of USD for barely beating Mines in a tough situation on the road at high altitude with a team that hadn't yet had to play a 4 quarter game then what is your excuse when SDSU lost out at Chadron not all that long ago?
Instead of using generalizations as to why SDSU would win it would be nice to hear what SDSU has done this year to make you think they would beat USD who is on caliber with some of the teams you are currently playing and I don't mean LaCross. If USD is good enough to embarass UNO than they are good enough to at least slightly edge out SDSU. Because not too long ago SDSU was losing to the same basic UNO team with basically the same players and same coaches. Don't tell me that this SDSU team is heads and shoulders above the team from 2 years ago because it's just not true.
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