SD vs. ND high school recuits

[FargoBison]

Re: SD vs. ND high school recuits

Yes, but we all know ESPN does not really have a clue when it comes to sports in these two states.

I think ESPN is right here though, there is very little difference in high school football. Basketball though is a completely different story though, SD is much better on that front due probably to hockey's popularity up here in ND.

[BTownJack]

Re: SD vs. ND high school recuits

That certainly makes sense to me. Living in Brookings I know our BHS high school basketball team loses many good athletes to the Brookings Rangers club hockey team. I can see that being widespread across the state of ND since the popularity of hockey is much greater up there.

[JACKGUYII]

Re: SD vs. ND high school recuits

I think South Dakota high school football produces a slightly bigger crop of college calibre players than North Dakota. However I don't think it's a contest in Basketball and I'm sure the pure popularity of Hockey in North Dakota has something to do with it. I also think the metro area of Sioux Falls will produce several DI Basketball players in the coming years as Cadsev has alluded too. Good competition and growth in the city is helping to breed a higher level of player in greater numbers.

[2006gwfcchamps]

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I would say SD has at most 1 or 2 more DI caliber FB players than ND because they have more population.

[thebluehatman]

Re: SD vs. ND high school recuits

I would say there are one to two more Canadians in North Dakota ;D ;D Not to mention a few more dog sled teams up there. :P

[NorCalJack]

Re: SD vs. ND high school recuits

Well I checked some of the surrounding university rosters to see where all of these ND kids were going to play D-1 if not at NDSU. I checked the following rosters

University of Montana
Montana State University
University of Wyoming
University of Nebraska
South Dakota State University
University of Minnesota
University of Iowa
Iowa State University
University of Northern Iowa
Drake University
University of Wisconsin
Univerisity of Colorado
Northern Colorado University

And the grand total of ND kids on these roster? ZERO

Now in checking the surrounding Universities for SD kids, if found at least one SD kid on the following D-1 rosters.

University of Minnesota
University of Iowa
North Dakota State University
Unversity of Northern Iowa
University of Wisconsin

So in my research I found 28 SD kids playing D-1 football in SD and 9 SD kids playing D-1 outside of SD. I found 17 ND kids playing D-1 football in ND and NO!! ND kids playing D-1 outside of ND. You would think that if SD and ND was equal in talent then ND would have approximately the same number of kids playing D-1. Right now ND has 17 kids playing D-1 and SD has 37 kids. I'm sure I missed some, but I doubt that ND could round up 20 more kids playing outside of ND in D-1.

Go State!!! 8-) 8-) 8-)

[West_River_Jack]

Re: SD vs. ND high school recuits

Some football seasons in South Dakota end with some very cold outdoor games.  Does the frigid north arctic weather make football less popular up north than in our own southern tropical climate?

Also,  what time of the year does hockey actually take over as the major sport of interest?  Does it encroach on football season?

Maybe Stig should head to North Dakota.  It doesn't sound like anybody else recruits there!

[Jacks99]

Re: SD vs. ND high school recuits

This could help explain why a few recruits land in NDSU from time to time. If there were more players out of ND worthy, SDSU may have some as well.

[jackmd]

Re: SD vs. ND high school recuits

This could help explain why a few recruits land in NDSU from time to time.  If there were more players out of ND worthy, SDSU may have some as well.

I like this guys thinking.  Continue with this logic, support it with some more facts and I am on board..

[JackJD]

Re: 2007 Recruits

The simple answer is that SDSU is giving 28 SD players a spot on the team.


IE, if NDSU have 50 ND kids spot on our team, that would change the ratio.

For some reason, 2006gwfcchamps's comment reminded me of the old joke (logic?) that seems to surface when we're out hunting with a rookie. Someone will invariably ask the rookie as a flock of honkers passes over "Know why one side of that V is longer than the other?" The rookie, expecting to learn some important outdoor stuff, says "No, why?". And the first guy, gazing at the passing flock, will calmly state "There's more geese in it."

[BTownJack]

Re: 2007 Recruits

[quote author=2006gwfcchamps link=1168990344/0#5 date=1168988857]The simple answer is that SDSU is giving 28 SD players a spot on the team.


IE, if NDSU have 50 ND kids spot on our team, that would change the ratio.

For some reason, 2006gwfcchamps's comment reminded me of the old joke (logic?) that seems to surface when we're out hunting with a rookie.  Someone will invariably ask the rookie as a flock of honkers passes over "Know why one side of that V is longer than the other?"  The rookie, expecting to learn some important outdoor stuff, says "No, why?".  And the first guy, gazing at the passing flock, will calmly state "There's more geese in it."[/quote]

LOL...I can't agree more. Its official...this guy really doesn't have a clue what he's talking about.

[2006gwfcchamps]

Re: SD vs. ND high school recuits

You would think that if SD and ND was equal in talent then ND would have approximately the same number of kids playing D-1.

The only way to know for sure would be to have a North South Dak all state game for the high school seniors.


I would enjoy that much more than the current MonDak game in which Montana almost always wins do to them having 400k more people than ND has.



Also, the reason that schools like Drake, Iowa, UNI, and Iowa State have more SD kids than ND kids is that it's easier for them to hop across the river than to drive all the way up to ND.

[UWMandSDSU]

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[quote author=NorCalJack link=1168990344/15#20 date=1168997014]  You would think that if SD and ND was equal in talent then ND would have approximately the same number of kids playing D-1.

Also, the reason that schools like Drake, Iowa, UNI, and Iowa State have more SD kids than ND kids is that it's easier for them to hop across the river than to drive all the way up to ND.[/quote]

If ND would have enough Div I talent, schools will go almost any distance to get them.  Don't give me this excuse coaches from Iowa won't travel a little longer to look at a recruit from ND.

[2006gwfcchamps]

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Frankly, it's the truth and I don't blame them.

With even FCS coaches having to spend time in Texas and Florida looking for recruits, they just don't have the time to go all the way out to south bumville ND looking for diamonds in the rough.

[Jacks02]

Re: SD vs. ND high school recuits

Frankly, it's the truth and I don't blame them.

With even FCS coaches having to spend time in Texas and Florida looking for recruits, they just don't have the time to go all the way out to south bumville ND looking for diamonds in the rough.

So how would you explain no ND players at UM or UW? ND is same distance as SD from both Minnesota and Wisconsin....