The Official USD to D-I Smack Thread

[filbert]

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Sorry for bringing this thread back up...I thought this was the "official" USD(d-1?) smack thread and our ol' pal Stu decided to give us some fresh ammo this week since there hasn't been much news out of Verminville lately...

I know I left that thread mallet around here somewhere . . . razza frazza grumble grumble snort . . .

(just having some fun . . . this thread may go on for years . . . )

[NightHawk78]

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Geez, is this thing still alive?

Die, Thread, Die!

Sorry for bringing this thread back up...I thought this was the "official" USD(d-1?) smack thread and our ol' pal Stu decided to give us some fresh ammo this week since there hasn't been much news out of Verminville lately...

[filbert]

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Geez, is this thing still alive?

Die, Thread, Die!

[NightHawk78]

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Even Stu is having fun with the 'Yotes scheduling problems for next year:

November

The University of South Dakota continues its exciting foray into the world of Division I athletics with a much-anticipated men's basketball opener in Vermillion.

"We had some scheduling problems, but those are all straightened out," says athletic director Joel Nielsen, standing at courtside during the Coyotes' workmanlike victory over Viborg.

http://www.argusleader.com/apps/pbcs...5/COLUMNISTS01

[JackJD]

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Yotes 53. It's not proper smack to be boring, repetitive and lack imagination. You have to try harder...give us a laugh!

[Yote53]

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LaCrosse

[jackmd]

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Who cares about the Big Sky, SDSU fans sure claim they don't eventhough they were on their hands and knees praying to get in that conference only months ago.  The Gateway is an average conference but the Midcon for other sports is just another NCC with worse rivalries and the same level of competition.  

Google NCC then google Mid con, what might you get? One is a DI athletic conference one is an acronym for a lot of different things and..... It won't even exist in one short year. Not that it did anything for than "existing" and serving has a puching bag for the NSIC after UNC, SDSU, and NDSU left anyways. Wonder it the NSIC would have taken you guys if say Augie went DI?

[filbert]

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Who cares about the Big Sky, SDSU fans sure claim they don't eventhough they were on their hands and knees praying to get in that conference only months ago. The Gateway is an average conference but the Midcon for other sports is just another NCC with worse rivalries and the same level of competition.

This one gets 9.0. It actually made me laugh (the part about the Gateway being an average conference). Excellent effort.

[UWMandSDSU]

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The Gateway is an average conference but the Midcon for other sports is just another NCC with worse rivalries and the same level of competition.  

You just remember that when U(dot) is begging us to get into the Midcon and Gateway. Have fun playing in Independent.

[SDSUcks]

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Who cares about the Big Sky, SDSU fans sure claim they don't eventhough they were on their hands and knees praying to get in that conference only months ago. The Gateway is an average conference but the Midcon for other sports is just another NCC with worse rivalries and the same level of competition.

[2002jack]

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Big Sky comminsioner

http://www.bigskyconf.com/article.asp?articleid=84834

Q: Two schools that were talked about as possible members of the Big Sky – North Dakota State and South Dakota State – have joined the Gateway Conference for football and the Mid-Continent for other sports. Why do you think the Presidents of the Big Sky schools opted not to invite these schools to join?
A: Location, location, location - North Dakota State University and South Dakota State University were very attractive to everyone in our league, they simply live a long ways away from our current members. And, I believe it was not only the travel concerns that bothered the Presidents. Conferences who have broken apart in the past, have always broken when long distances were involved. I think there was an underlying concern that expanding the league to the Dakotas may in the long run weaken the ties within our existing members.

Not a good sign for the 'yotes.

[Yote53]

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USD and UND competed for the Sitting Bull Trophy for over 40 years. It was retired a few years ago for obvious reasons. The rivalry has existed on these two campuses for many, many years. No need to formulate something that already exists.

BTW, congratulations to you women's BBall team. They represented the state proudly.

[JackJD]

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NorCalJack: Your mind is being read on the USD message board on the subject of the UXDs emulating NDSU and SDSU in teaming up for the transition:

http://coyotesports.proboards100.com...ead=1175006552

[NorCalJack]

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I don't think this is smack, but I wanted to bring up some points about USD's move to D-1.  USD and UND have both stated that it was better to wait for the XDSU's to blaze their trail and to follow that trail.  I agree with following the model laid out by the XDSU's, but they can't replicate every move that the XDSU's made.

SDSU and NDSU made a commitment to each other that they were partners in the move to D-1.  They made it known to potential conferences that they had to take both institutions.  I have not heard the UXD's make any public statements that they are a package deal.  One of the reasons may be the mascot issue with UND.  USD may think twice about being tied to the hip with a university that is in a law suit with the NCAA over the Sioux name.  Some conferences have already stated that it is in their by-laws not to schedule Out Of Conference games with Universities with offensive mascots.  It may be in USD's best interest not to be aligned with UND because of this issue.  So this is one example of the UXD's not following the XDSU's trail.

NDSU and SDSU realized early on that each university was losing their old rival and that they needed to make a new rivalry.  So they came up with the Dakota Marker game.  The Dakota Marker was used to separate North Dakota from South Dakota and it helped kick start the rivalry.  It was in the paper as both universities met at the border and unveiled the trophy for the press to spread the word of a new rivalry in D-1.  Again, I don't see the UXD's creating any real rivalry.  I believe that they think the old rivalry's will resume with the XDSU's once they reach the transition phase.  But a rivalry take two sides and if the XDSU's don't want to renew the rivalry, then the UXD's will not have any rivalry.  The UXD's need to start their own rivalry if they are going to follow the XDSU's model.

NDSU and SDSU were very pro-active in their seach for conferences.  They felt that if they did not have a conference, that they should make their own conference to help with the scheduling difficulties that Independent teams have at the D-1 level.  So the XDSU's were very active in starting the Great West Football Conference, the Basketball Alliance and a new Wrestling Conference.  This showed established conferences that the XDSU's were very pro-active and this made them attractive to the Mid-Con and Gateway Conferences.  I don't see or have not heard the UXD's putting together any conference alliances.

So as you can see, the UXD's have stated that they want to emulate the XDSU's model, but other than announcing their intent to go D-1, I have not seen anything that would make me believe they are following the XDSU's model.  I think the UXD's will eventually find conferences and will eventually have some moderate success at the D-1 level, but it will take them longer than the XDSU's.

It is good to be a Rabbit or a Bison!!!

Go State!!! 8-) 8-) 8-)

[1bunnies]

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[quote author=NightHawk78 link=1164864014/90#93 date=1173594031]http://sports.espn.go.com/ncw/news/story?id=2788328

The USD women didn't fare any better, falling to Concordia-St. Paul 82-74 yesterday despite living in Grand Forks for nearly a week........ol' Chadwick outsmarted himself again......

I thought ole Chadwick would be able to figure out a way to beat Concordia, even if we were without two of our best players. This one has to sting.[/quote]

usd2 has a best player. WHO?