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  • Re: USD transfers already beginning

    Originally posted by joeboo22
    first of all there football program is only good because of how water downed D-II has became in the last 5 years, second of all there basketball team is good but I wouldn't go as far to say there program is good, they have had to many recruits not preform and have relied on D-I transfers... That doesn't happen in D-I if you screw up on a recruit it hurts you, and you don't get those D-I transfers each year.
    The bottom line is that USD now plays the better teams alot better than they used to. If you want to call D2 watered down that is fine but I hardly think UNO and/or UND are any worse off now then they were with a full 10 team NCC. USD has not only been beating UNO but they have been whipping them pretty good. They used to get killed by them. Doesn't that tell you anything SDSU fans. USD now plays UND even with both teams winning at home. USD really crushed UND in 2005, pretty much the same team that just ended up beating UNI on the road. So since UND won at UNI but lost at USD wouldn't it be logical to think that USD definately belongs on a pretty close level to UNI, who by the way defeated SDSU.

    USD is much better than they were in 2003 and to sweep that under the run is ignorant, regardless of the teams in the NCC currently. I personally think USD's program has improved more than SDSU's has.

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      blah, blah, blah. Just face it, your a sdsu fan! What is your address so i can mail you a cowbell.

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        USD has improved some areas though, i will admit.

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        • Re: USD transfers already beginning

          Originally posted by JacksFan06
          I believe I stated this before but I'll post it again.
          How does USD plan on landing good recruits once they move up and are competing with regional foes of SDSU, NDSU, Drake, Creighton & UNI. These schools will be true DI schools that have no limitations and are in stable conferences. USD will be transitioning and will have no option for any post season play. Which situation do you think a recruit will choose?  What will end up happening is USD getting everybody else's scraps and having to take risks on players who might be athleticly good enough but will have attitude and academic issues. I can see future USD rosters being loaded with JUCO players to try and keep up.  
          Just wondering, if a recruit is listing up the pros and cons of the schools recruiting him do you honestly think USD's list will have more pros than cons? To be honest I have a hard time thinking up any pros or anything that is above average at USD and in Vermillion. Of course I'm a bit biased.

          If you don't think USD can recruit than that means SDSU is in the same boat. Meierkort is likely a better recruiter than anything SDSU has. They have a better facility as well than CAS. The dome hurts for basketball recruiting but helps for football recruiting. Plus the success and momentum of the program will also help. USD has an awfully long home field winning streak going on as well. I would venture to guess a longer winning streak than SDSU has had at home for years. The Foster kid out of Wisconsin should give some indication of Meierkort's recruiting abilities. Foster isn't a sure thing by any means but he is highly thought of, and that is all that can be drawn from. That goes for any program and any recruits that they even sign up. There is always going to be question because they are all unproven at the college level until they get onto the field. Coaching can also develop players into being better players than they might have been at a different school.

          I would venture to guess that by football in September that the runningback and quarterback that start at USD with both be better than what SDSU puts out there. USD is known for runningbacks and they have just started developing good quarterbacks since Ed came along.

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          • Re: USD transfers already beginning

            Originally posted by SF_Rabbit_Fan
            [quote author=SDSUcks link=1176877474/60#71 date=1177557156]Erin Johnston, NA, NA, NA, NA------NA,NA,NA,NA

            HEY-HEY-HEY

            GOODBYE

            and kiss your only good program goodbye with it.
            One day later, and already SDSUcks is proven wrong.  Imagine what the next 3 years will do to his prophesies.[/quote]

            I am not proven wrong, give me a break. I was just saying what was true at the time. He was on his way out and people were saying their good byes. I guess if I was wrong so was everyone because for about a day I don't think many people thought AJ was going to be coaching in Brookings. I don't think I ever said AJ is gone and is never coming back. He changed his mind, that doesn't make everyone or anyone wrong for assuming he would leave. If AJ himself thought he was leaving wouldn't it be a logical conclusion for everyone else to believe he was indeed going to leave. Again this is a blatent attempt at smack that doesn't exist. You are going to need to bring something a bit more enlightening than this to be taken seriously.

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              And Gollum tries to backpedal... weak.

              You'd never survive a career in politics... USD's president sure didn't!
              I am Ed. Fear me.

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              • Re: USD transfers already beginning

                Originally posted by SDSUcks
                [quote author=JacksFan06 link=1176877474/90#102 date=1177681575]I believe I stated this before but I'll post it again.
                How does USD plan on landing good recruits once they move up and are competing with regional foes of SDSU, NDSU, Drake, Creighton & UNI. These schools will be true DI schools that have no limitations and are in stable conferences. USD will be transitioning and will have no option for any post season play. Which situation do you think a recruit will choose?  What will end up happening is USD getting everybody else's scraps and having to take risks on players who might be athleticly good enough but will have attitude and academic issues. I can see future USD rosters being loaded with JUCO players to try and keep up.  
                Just wondering, if a recruit is listing up the pros and cons of the schools recruiting him do you honestly think USD's list will have more pros than cons? To be honest I have a hard time thinking up any pros or anything that is above average at USD and in Vermillion. Of course I'm a bit biased.

                If you don't think USD can recruit than that means SDSU is in the same boat.  Meierkort is likely a better recruiter than anything SDSU has.  They have a better facility as well than CAS.  The dome hurts for basketball recruiting but helps for football recruiting.  Plus the success and momentum of the program will also help.  USD has an awfully long home field winning streak going on as well.  I would venture to guess a longer winning streak than SDSU has had at home for years.  The Foster kid out of Wisconsin should give some indication of Meierkort's recruiting abilities.  Foster isn't a sure thing by any means but he is highly thought of, and that is all that can be drawn from.  That goes for any program and any recruits that they even sign up.  There is always going to be question because they are all unproven at the college level until they get onto the field.  Coaching can also develop players into being better players than they might have been at a different school.  

                I would venture to guess that by football in September that the runningback and quarterback that start at USD with both be better than what SDSU puts out there.  USD is known for runningbacks and they have just started developing good quarterbacks since Ed came along. [/quote]

                I hate domed stadiums and the Dakota Dome is the worst one for football or basketball I have ever been in. I would take Coughlin Alumni Stadium any day of the week and I think many other former and present NCC fans would too!

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                  The Dakota Dump (aka: the world's largest septic tank) is not a recruiting tool!

                  I remember the first time I went in there. It was pretty exciting pulling up to it. Once inside it was really a let down. I remember thinking, "This is it?" Then both teams ran onto the field and shared the same sideline and thought that it was pretty poor. Then later on I came back for a basketball game which was just horrible! And what an atmoshphere the AD has fostered inside of that cesspool! Man am I glad to not have to go to that %#@*hole again!

                  In the years that have followed that first visit, I've come to understand that the Dakota Dump was designed by the infamous USD Engineering School! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

                  Screw the U! May the good Lord continue to shine his face on South Dakota State University!

                  SUPERBUNNY
                  MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM, BIZUN!!!

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                  • Re: USD transfers already beginning

                    when you loose NDSU, SDSU and Northern Colorado from your conference it has became waterdowned...
                    you cant compare those games with UNO and Minnesota Delouth...

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                      Originally posted by PREMIUM
                      blah, blah, blah.   Just face it, your a sdsu fan!  What is your address so i can mail you a cowbell.
                      You can keep the cowbells to yourself, talk about a hillbilly tradition.  Why don't yall get yourselves some suspenders and a straw hat and have a huge ho down before the game.  Maybe some cowboy boots and stirrups and do a little square dance with the cow girls that you have up there.  

                      Old McDonald had a farm E-I-E-I-O, and on his farm he had a Jackrabbit E-I-E-I-O. With a bad basketball program here and an immoral AD there, here a barn there a smell everywhere on SDSU, Old McDonald had a farm S-D-S-U BLOWS.

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                        Originally posted by joeboo22
                        when you loose NDSU, SDSU and Northern Colorado from your conference it has became waterdowned...
                        you cant compare those games with UNO and Minnesota Delouth...
                        So are you basically saying the UNO and UND have suddenly in three years or less become less than good football programs because one or two good NCC teams left. I don't think that makes much sense to me. Well with that way of thinking the Great West was watered down too because of the newly established D1 programs that have joined. Now the Gateway was just weakened as well according to your philosophy.

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                          What I'm getting at is if UNC, Duke, and Maryland left the ACC it would be water downed ya there would still be good teams in the conference but if you won the ACC with out those teams it wouldn't mean as much... The fact that USD has been good the past 3 years is good but its not as good as it would be if the XDSU's and Northern Colorado were still on there schedule.

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                          • Re: USD transfers already beginning

                            Originally posted by SDSUcks
                            [quote author=PREMIUM link=1176877474/105#106 date=1177710854]blah, blah, blah.   Just face it, your a sdsu fan!  What is your address so i can mail you a cowbell.
                            You can keep the cowbells to yourself, talk about a hillbilly tradition.  Why don't yall get yourselves some suspenders and a straw hat and have a huge ho down before the game.  Maybe some cowboy boots and stirrups and do a little square dance with the cow girls that you have up there.  

                            Old McDonald had a farm E-I-E-I-O, and on his farm he had a Jackrabbit E-I-E-I-O.  With a bad basketball program here and an immoral AD there, here a barn there a smell everywhere on SDSU, Old McDonald had a farm S-D-S-U BLOWS.     [/quote]

                            ;D ;D ;D That's funny, I don't care who you are.
                            LET'S TAKE A TRIP TO BIRDLAND! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68-6O2mJhMw

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                              Originally posted by SDSUcks
                              Well with that way of thinking the Great West was watered down too because of the newly established D1 programs that have joined. Now the Gateway was just weakened as well according to your philosophy.
                              Subtraction = Watered down, i.e. NCC
                              Addition = Strength, i.e. NDSU, SDSU finish 1-2 in the Great West.

                              What was your point, genius?
                              @JacksFanInNeb

                              I've always believed that if someone wants to run a country, he should know how to run a tractor first.
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                                Not to mention that the GWFC was the STRONGEST league in the FCS.

                                Face it Gollum... your arguments have more holes in them than my socks!

                                And you're supposed to be the "elite" university? If you're an example of being "elite", then I'm PROUD to be a "Hillbilly"

                                By the way, who's ranked AHEAD of USD as the leading research university in the State? SDSU

                                Who's ADDING athletic programs, rather than cutting them in order to be Title IX compliant? SDSU

                                Who DOESN'T have a failed politician at the helm of their university? SDSU

                                Game, set, match, SDSU.

                                As soon as you realize this, you'll be much happier and you can get on with your life, Gollum.
                                I am Ed. Fear me.

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