USD didn't beat NDSU, refs did

[HandoEX]

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Now that I've seen all four Dakota DI teams, USD is definitely the best. They do more with less than anyone.

[UWMandSDSU]

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Trevor Bouma, USD leading rusher is out for the season as he re-injured his shoulder.

[goon]

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Now that I've seen all four Dakota DI teams, USD is definitely the best. They do more with less than anyone.

There loss to youngstown would beg to differ.

Our game in Verm should help shed some light on the subject.

[yoteforever]

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There loss to youngstown would beg to differ.

Our game in Verm should help shed some light on the subject.

i agree. And I don't say that from an arrogant perspective. That's why you play the games. Rankings mean squat till the last one. I think you're a better team right now, who knows in 3 weeks. If you kick our tails, you kick our tails. If we kick yours, the same goes. Let the players decide it.

[goon]

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i agree. And I don't say that from an arrogant perspective. That's why you play the games. Rankings mean squat till the last one. I think you're a better team right now, who knows in 3 weeks. If you kick our tails, you kick our tails. If we kick yours, the same goes. Let the players decide it.

totally. Listening to the radio this am they said it perfectly, thats why you play the game. SDSU sticks it too youngstown, Youngstown steamrolls USD, USD battles and beats NDSU, NDSU man handles SDSU.

[MontanaRabbit]

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Why did SDSU not show up on Oct 3? Its a mystery.

Why? Because we have at least one game every year like that.

[Nidaros]

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Why? Because we have at least one game every year like that.

If you use the score analysis, YSU beat USD 31-3 28 points, SDSU beat YSU 38-8 30 PTS for a total of 58 pts before deducts, deduct the NDSU-SDSU score 28-7 minus 21 and NDSU lost to USD 24-21 3 for total deducts of 24 pts, 58 Pts minus 24 equals 34 pts to the good. Mostly on this analysis SDSU beats USD by 34 on Nov 14th, barring any more comp scores between now and the 14th of November. I believe this is a smack thread so take your best shot.

[jacksfan29]

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There loss to youngstown would beg to differ.

Our game in Verm should help shed some light on the subject.

I think this weekend will tell a lot. I'm actually picking MSU to give USD a game this weekend, and possibly pull out the win, in the Dome. Crazy? Maybe.

Does everyone not recall the "USD have now turned the corner" after they beat MN? What happened after that? I just don't think USD has the depth, or the talent right now to be a contender week in and week out in the Valley. WIU manhandled them, YSU manhandled them, ok; they beat NDSU who did not look like NDSU at all.

We shall see, I'm looking to this coming weekend to see who USD really is.

[yoteforever]

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I think this weekend will tell a lot. I'm actually picking MSU to give USD a game this weekend, and possibly pull out the win, in the Dome. Crazy? Maybe.

Does everyone not recall the "USD have now turned the corner" after they beat MN? What happened after that? I just don't think USD has the depth, or the talent right now to be a contender week in and week out in the Valley. WIU manhandled them, YSU manhandled them, ok; they beat NDSU who did not look like NDSU at all.

We shall see, I'm looking to this coming weekend to see who USD really is.

Thats also fair except the Minnesota comment. Different coach, different team. We have not been a good team for a number of years. One win in Fargo doesn't prove anything other than we are capable. Can Missouri State win? Hell yes they can. I wouldn't be shocked either way. What I am saying is maybe, just maybe, a win in Fargo gives the kids a a punchers chance in all remaining games. Was NDSU flat? Probably so. But did they get beat in their house? Yes they did. That's something you couldn't do. Youngstown beat the hell out of us...bad. And you beat the hell out of them at their place. That concerns the hell out of me. Western Illinois didn't dominate us like you say or think, but they didn't let it stay close either. I'm not sure what happened to our defense that day.

Listen, I picked you to win the league back in August. Then you played NDSU like you were scared, but now you have played yourself back into it. Good teams do that. Not only does this week say a lot about USD but look in the mirror bud, it will tell you a few things about your team. I'm actually picking UNI to give SDSU a game this weekend. We set the table for you in Fargo, dont blow it now at home.

[JackJD]

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This post won't be considered smack ... can I get sanctioned for not smacking in a smack thread?

The USD win at NDSU is one of those classic examples that come along every so often, giving support to the valuable and important concept of never giving up. A coach trying to coax his team into putting forth that supreme effort to win against what appear to be overwhelming odds, can cite what USD did to the Bison (although I would argue that in the second half of that game, the Coyotes played football like the odds were even-up, not overwhelming).

I presume Coach Stig and his assistants will get some value out of that victory too. Let's say, hypothetically (because I think USD wins this weekend) USD cannot get another victory leading up to November 14 and SDSU wins them all leading up to that same weekend. Stig and his assistants will harp on "remember what USD did to NDSU".

[bigticket1]

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Why? Because we have at least one game every year like that.

In all honesty,most teams do. It maybe always doesn't result in a loss but even the Alabama's and Ohio State's of the world lay down at least one clunker per season.

[jacksfan29]

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Thats also fair except the Minnesota comment. Different coach, different team. We have not been a good team for a number of years. One win in Fargo doesn't prove anything other than we are capable. Can Missouri State win? Hell yes they can. I wouldn't be shocked either way. What I am saying is maybe, just maybe, a win in Fargo gives the kids a a punchers chance in all remaining games. Was NDSU flat? Probably so. But did they get beat in their house? Yes they did. That's something you couldn't do. Youngstown beat the hell out of us...bad. And you beat the hell out of them at their place. That concerns the hell out of me. Western Illinois didn't dominate us like you say or think, but they didn't let it stay close either. I'm not sure what happened to our defense that day.

Listen, I picked you to win the league back in August. Then you played NDSU like you were scared, but now you have played yourself back into it. Good teams do that. Not only does this week say a lot about USD but look in the mirror bud, it will tell you a few things about your team. I'm actually picking UNI to give SDSU a game this weekend. We set the table for you in Fargo, dont blow it now at home.

The MN comment had more to do with the media and the "I don't pay attention but once or twice per year" Coyote fans. I saw it Saturday night and Sunday. The win over NDSU now means USD is better than SDSU this year and that USD are now in the running for a conference championship. I even read where your beat writer from Yankton thinks USD deserves a top 25 ranking after the NDSU win. One win? Really?

NDSU was flat, even Wentz, after the game stated there was no energy among the players. They went up 14-0 and thought it was cruise control time. They got caught overlooking an opponent. Something you can not do in the MVFC. I do think MSU has a shot this weekend. Bouma is now out, USD will recover from that but it will take a bit to replace his productivity and leadership. I think you also have to look at what happens when teams play NDSU. Whether they played well or not, playing NDSU takes a physical toll. I'm also of the mind that MSU will likely get a win in conference this year. If you look at their team they didn't lose that much from a year ago. The big difference is a new coaching staff. The talent they have is better than the 70 put up on them a couple weeks ago.

Of course UNI is going to give us a game. Just because they are 0-3 in the conference they are still one of the top teams. They have played ISUr, NDSU, WIU all top teams in the conference. They had a very difficult OOC schedule and now get SDSU at home. UNI are beat up, physically and mentally. That said, UNI is UNI. They are not a bottom feeder in the MVFC. I believe this will be a more difficult game for us than either ISUb or YSU.

Good win by USD. I'm thrilled by it because if things play out we won't have to go to Fargo. That's absolutely HUGE for us. I also really like Joe Glenn. Classy guy, I think he will leave USD in much better shape when he chooses to retire. He's a great coach, very happy for him.

[ringthebells]

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Worst. Smack. Thread. Ever.

NDSU, seriously, you lost to USD! Did Booger and Wormser put some Icy Hot on your jockstraps at half-time? Did the starters take the day off to hang at Corso's trailer? Did Bohl and Klieman switch places for the day? Anybody wearing blue this weekend had better not be giving USD "props". It's a smack thread, deserved "props" are not allowed.

Over-looking the plains of Brookings
Far as I can see
Lies an old abandoned outhouse
called the University

[NoVaJack]

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In some respects I agree with your analogy, in some I dont. We don't deserve to be ranked yet in my opinion. Win 3 or 4 more games...maybe. But in the same respect, for you to be 4 spots ahead of them one week after they kicked your rear end, at home, doesn't make a lot of sense either. In my opinion, polls are for losers. Win, and you'll get all the recognition you want and need. I have said from the start of the season the Jacks we're going to win the league, what I didnt realize is that USD was going to help you do that. 😂

Actually, it's two weeks, an eternity in college football

[NoVaJack]

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This post won't be considered smack ... can I get sanctioned for not smacking in a smack thread?

The USD win at NDSU is one of those classic examples that come along every so often, giving support to the valuable and important concept of never giving up. A coach trying to coax his team into putting forth that supreme effort to win against what appear to be overwhelming odds, can cite what USD did to the Bison (although I would argue that in the second half of that game, the Coyotes played football like the odds were even-up, not overwhelming).

I presume Coach Stig and his assistants will get some value out of that victory too. Let's say, hypothetically (because I think USD wins this weekend) USD cannot get another victory leading up to November 14 and SDSU wins them all leading up to that same weekend. Stig and his assistants will harp on "remember what USD did to NDSU".

Brilliant! Deft, backhanded smack, with hints of patronization overlaid with subtle condescension and faux sympathy - brilliant! So it passes. Had you added a gratuitous "Screw The U" you'd have smacked right into RingTheBells standards.
On another point, consider this: The same month the Refs stole a victory from the Bison, "Fargo" moves to Sioux Falls.
Are the Refs in league with the Coen Brothers? North Dakota is too obscure to actually set Fargo in Fargo?

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