The Other Game Sept. 25th

[SoDakJack]

Re: The Other Game Sept. 25th

So many of you on here are downplaying the win and making it sound Minnesota is NAIA at best, yet a year ago, when the SDSU Jacks played them, they were incredibly good, and they were this, and they were that. The truth is they were the same damn team we played this year, and it just makes you ache that we beat them and you didn't. No USD fan came on your board gloating. We took it in stride, but your arrogance regarding USD is stifling.

You are proud of your new AD. I say he isn't a very good businessman. he might be a good dude, but a businessman he isn't. He had a 5 year deal on his desk as late as 3 weeks ago giving you a 3/2 home schedule with GUARANTEED sellout crowds, big gates, low travel xpenses and he turned it down. Why? For two reasons. One, your hatred of USD because you say our fans dissed you when you went D-1, and you have such a Napoleon mentality, tha you just can't overlook it. The second reason you won't play us is because you know damn good and well its's a 50/50 shot we'll beat you. That's right..,..50/50 at best. If we played you with the same passion we played Minnesota, we beat you by 17, and that is just more than you can handle.

Gosh. Don't go.

Anyway, I don't think that anyone one here has said that the Minnesota team the beat the Jacks last year was any better that the team that USD beat.

I don't see why Sell is a bad AD. The Jacks are already selling CAS to almost sell out status. What would the additional 400-500 fans really bring us. Be honest, the real reason that USD alums are upset that SDSU won't come to play in Verm is that they can't sell even close to capacity for any other home games. They need to have the rivalry to generate ticket sales, SDSU doesn't.

I bet my house that there is no way that USD would beat SDSU by 17 at home or on the road.

[Nidaros]

Re: The Other Game Sept. 25th

The crap rolling off your keyboards regarding USD's win at Minnesota is more than I can handle. I had learned to be a secondary fan of the Jacks because of the discussions help on this board, and I always felt that SDSU having success was good for the state, and likewise for USD.

But after our win at Minnesota and reading your responses on here, you have driven me away to ever cheer for your beloved Bunnies. To state that Minnesota didn't even prepare for USD is ridiculous. Link me Nidaros to where Brewster said they didn't prepare at all for USD. No coach takes his team into a game blind.

So many of you on here are downplaying the win and making it sound Minnesota is NAIA at best, yet a year ago, when the SDSU Jacks played them, they were incredibly good, and they were this, and they were that. The truth is they were the same damn team we played this year, and it just makes you ache that we beat them and you didn't. No USD fan came on your board gloating. We took it in stride, but your arrogance regarding USD is stifling.

You are proud of your new AD. I say he isn't a very good businessman. he might be a good dude, but a businessman he isn't. He had a 5 year deal on his desk as late as 3 weeks ago giving you a 3/2 home schedule with GUARANTEED sellout crowds, big gates, low travel xpenses and he turned it down. Why? For two reasons. One, your hatred of USD because you say our fans dissed you when you went D-1, and you have such a Napoleon mentality, tha you just can't overlook it. The second reason you won't play us is because you know damn good and well its's a 50/50 shot we'll beat you. That's right..,..50/50 at best. If we played you with the same passion we played Minnesota, we beat you by 17, and that is just more than you can handle.

And lastly, for those posters that continually blurp Minnesota will win only 1 game all year, I have $5000 to wager that isn't so. I'll take one bet of $5000 or 100 $50 bets. Just PM me, nd we'll make the wager.

When you are as mean and vindictive as you are, watch out that it doesn't come back to haunt you someday.

Go Illinois State

Boy all of sudden our friendly Coyotoe fan is really upset. Sorry pal but we are Jack fans first and Coyote fans maybe second. This thread is about the other game on Sept 25th between NDSU and USD. We have a right to express our thoughts on Saturday's game between USD and UM. I am sorry not all the comments are gushy and full of glee.

As far as providing a link, I was only going on general comments expressed on KFGO by talk show host Joel Hietkamp, who was in a general terms quoting Brewster who said he he did not prepare his guys. Joel's comment was that Brewster was telling the public that he did not deserve the job as head coach considering what they are paying the man. These comments made me think of the SDSU-UW-Lacrosse game, the one the Coyote fans love to bring up from time to time, where the staff had not done much in game preparation since they were anticipating a big game the following week against Montana. I suspect the same was true with the UM staff. If they had prepared would Dante had gotten all those good receptions? I don't think so. I saw a parellel in preparing for a lower classification opponent, I think its easy to over look. USD being the lower program took advantage of the situation and won. I would love to hear what is going on at staff meetings at the UM this week. Most of them are already working on their resumes.

So as your thread over on your board is labled a Bank Hiest, I think the naming was very appropriate. What else can you say.

One reason, our AD may have back away from this contract that comes to mind is the possibly of USD being admitted to MVFC. With a 5 year contract in place, would SDSU have to honor its terms, plus we might might have other scheduling options. I do not know. I have yet to meet Justin Sells, but I suspect he knows what he is doing.

BTW Wegher is not headed to USD. Per his father he is still enrolled in classes at the U Of Iowa.

[jackmd]

Re: The Other Game Sept. 25th

YF, some friendly advice, don't come to the SDSU FANATIC board if you want to see unanimous adulation about a coyote victory. You know better than that. Plenty of poster have been very complimentary. I think it's pretty clear why some Jack's fans would want to downplay the significance of last Saturday's win. I don't need to expand on that.

As for the NDSU/usd game, I'll be watching the score with interest. If they could both lose that would be best. Since one has to win, I'm inclined to cheer for our conference mate NDSU. I won't be upset if the bison lose, however.

My opinion, assumptions about the competency of our AD on the basis of non-acceptance of the said contract from usd are not acceptable on this forum. He isn't a "dude" either. The games with usd will resume when they resume.

I don't care if Minnesota wins any games this year. 2 losses to programs in transition to the FCS level in 3 years defines failure at the BSC level of the FBS. Brewster and his staff have demonstrated a clear lack of competence and I have little doubt that the U of Minn athletic department will see some major changes this coming year.

I don't expect coyote fans to cheer for SDSU. I didn't expect coyote fans to celebrate our transition to DI and was unsurprised by their opposition. I see no reason why someone can't choose to begrudge coyote fans for their nonsupport of SDSU. I see no reason why Jackrabbit fans should be expected to support the coyotes or vice versa. That said, I'm not opposed to someone being a fan of both.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, see the coyote victory however you want to see it. Like everything in life it is what you choose to see it as. I see it as a great performance by a fledgling program intent on making an impression at the FCS level and a poor performance by a struggling program about to plummet to the bottom of the BCS.

[Jacks#1Fan]

Re: The Other Game Sept. 25th

Great post JackMD!! I've come to YFE's defense a couple of times on this board, but I was surprised and amazed by his post on this thread. The comments were unnecessary, unwanted and unacceptable. If he wants to post those comments on the Coyote board...fine...but they aren't smack, they are just down right crap. I've given the green light on his comments many times, which I felt were fair, even if I didn't agree, and so have other posters. I believe your post put things in perspective...some of our fans congratulated the Yotes, and others downplayed it...well, for goodness sakes, what is the world coming to anyway? And as for the comments about Justin Sell...again uncalled for. He doesn't work for U. He works for us and he is a damn good businessman as well as a damn good AD...and I can speak personally for that.

[propar80]

Re: The Other Game Sept. 25th

The crap rolling off your keyboards regarding USD's win at Minnesota is more than I can handle. I had learned to be a secondary fan of the Jacks because of the discussions help on this board, and I always felt that SDSU having success was good for the state, and likewise for USD.

But after our win at Minnesota and reading your responses on here, you have driven me away to ever cheer for your beloved Bunnies. To state that Minnesota didn't even prepare for USD is ridiculous. Link me Nidaros to where Brewster said they didn't prepare at all for USD. No coach takes his team into a game blind.

So many of you on here are downplaying the win and making it sound Minnesota is NAIA at best, yet a year ago, when the SDSU Jacks played them, they were incredibly good, and they were this, and they were that. The truth is they were the same damn team we played this year, and it just makes you ache that we beat them and you didn't. No USD fan came on your board gloating. We took it in stride, but your arrogance regarding USD is stifling.

You are proud of your new AD. I say he isn't a very good businessman. he might be a good dude, but a businessman he isn't. He had a 5 year deal on his desk as late as 3 weeks ago giving you a 3/2 home schedule with GUARANTEED sellout crowds, big gates, low travel xpenses and he turned it down. Why? For two reasons. One, your hatred of USD because you say our fans dissed you when you went D-1, and you have such a Napoleon mentality, tha you just can't overlook it. The second reason you won't play us is because you know damn good and well its's a 50/50 shot we'll beat you. That's right..,..50/50 at best. If we played you with the same passion we played Minnesota, we beat you by 17, and that is just more than you can handle.

And lastly, for those posters that continually blurp Minnesota will win only 1 game all year, I have $5000 to wager that isn't so. I'll take one bet of $5000 or 100 $50 bets. Just PM me, nd we'll make the wager.

When you are as mean and vindictive as you are, watch out that it doesn't come back to haunt you someday.

Go Illinois State

Good to see your true feelings finally came out yoteforever. Considering there is a whole thread devoted to congratulating USD on their win and posting this in a smack thread, you're a bit "thin-skinned", don't you think?

After thinking about posting a congrats to the Yotes for the past couple of days, I'm glad you posted this so I wouldn't have too.

Another area team continously defining themselves by beating the gophers isn't new...NDSU has been doing it for three years and look where they're at now. Would any SDSU fans trade places with them at this point? If they did they're probably NDSU fans already.

Don't get bent out of shape if a handful of SDSU fans on a SDSU fanboard in a smack thread don't gush at USD's win over the Gophers as much as you'd like. It just shows more evidence to SDSU fans that all USD really cares about is what SDSU fans think. It's the Little Brother syndrome that's reared it's head for many years, and SDSU fans love it BTW.

As far as SDSU fans thinking/hoping that NDSU will win in Fargo...what do you expect? NDSU beating USD helps the MVFC, which in turn helps SDSU's playoff chances. I would think that someone who feels that SDSU's AD has no business sense should be able to figure that out.

So go up to Fargo, play well and see what happens. Because that place will be much more hostile than TCF, I promise. And if you get the "w" I'm sure they'll be a few SDSU fans that will congratulate you, but more that will smack NDSU...so hopefully you're not offended by it, but I'm sure you will be based on this post.

Go Jacks!!

[yotemeal]

Re: The Other Game Sept. 25th

Originally Posted by yoteforever
The crap rolling off your keyboards regarding USD's win at Minnesota is more than I can handle. I had learned to be a secondary fan of the Jacks because of the discussions help on this board, and I always felt that SDSU having success was good for the state, and likewise for USD.

But after our win at Minnesota and reading your responses on here, you have driven me away to ever cheer for your beloved Bunnies. To state that Minnesota didn't even prepare for USD is ridiculous. Link me Nidaros to where Brewster said they didn't prepare at all for USD. No coach takes his team into a game blind.

So many of you on here are downplaying the win and making it sound Minnesota is NAIA at best, yet a year ago, when the SDSU Jacks played them, they were incredibly good, and they were this, and they were that. The truth is they were the same damn team we played this year, and it just makes you ache that we beat them and you didn't. No USD fan came on your board gloating. We took it in stride, but your arrogance regarding USD is stifling.

You are proud of your new AD. I say he isn't a very good businessman. he might be a good dude, but a businessman he isn't. He had a 5 year deal on his desk as late as 3 weeks ago giving you a 3/2 home schedule with GUARANTEED sellout crowds, big gates, low travel xpenses and he turned it down. Why? For two reasons. One, your hatred of USD because you say our fans dissed you when you went D-1, and you have such a Napoleon mentality, tha you just can't overlook it. The second reason you won't play us is because you know damn good and well its's a 50/50 shot we'll beat you. That's right..,..50/50 at best. If we played you with the same passion we played Minnesota, we beat you by 17, and that is just more than you can handle.

And lastly, for those posters that continually blurp Minnesota will win only 1 game all year, I have $5000 to wager that isn't so. I'll take one bet of $5000 or 100 $50 bets. Just PM me, nd we'll make the wager.

When you are as mean and vindictive as you are, watch out that it doesn't come back to haunt you someday.

Go Illinois State

Good to see your true feelings finally came out yotemeal. Considering there is a whole thread devoted to congratulating USD on their win and posting this in a smack thread, you're a bit "thin-skinned", don't you think?

After thinking about posting a congrats to the Yotes for the past couple of days, I'm glad you posted this so I wouldn't have too.

Another area team continously defining themselves by beating the gophers isn't new...NDSU has been doing it for three years and look where they're at now. Would any SDSU fans trade places with them at this point? If they did they're probably NDSU fans already.

Don't get bent out of shape if a handful of SDSU fans on a SDSU fanboard in a smack thread don't gush at USD's win over the Gophers as much as you'd like. It just shows more evidence to SDSU fans that all USD really cares about is what SDSU fans think. It's the Little Brother syndrome that's reared it's head for many years, and SDSU fans love it BTW.

As far as SDSU fans thinking/hoping that NDSU will win in Fargo...what do you expect? NDSU beating USD helps the MVFC, which in turn helps SDSU's playoff chances. I would think that someone who feels that SDSU's AD has no business sense should be able to figure that out.

So go up to Fargo, play well and see what happens. Because that place will be much more hostile than TCF, I promise. And if you get the "w" I'm sure they'll be a few SDSU fans that will congratulate you, but more that will smack NDSU...so hopefully you're not offended by it, but I'm sure you will be based on this post.

Go Jacks!!

Don't drag me into this I've made my points and moved on.

[Jacked_Up]

Re: The Other Game Sept. 25th

I'll be quietly hoping for USD to beat and humble NDSU. I thought it was cool when USF beat UND. I'll favor the team from South Dakota over a team from North Dakota nearly every time. Granted, it's not easy to do.

[RowdyRabbit]

Re: The Other Game Sept. 25th

As for the NDSU/usd game, I'll be watching the score with interest. If they could both lose that would be best. Since one has to win, I'm inclined to cheer for our conference mate NDSU. I won't be upset if the bison lose, however.

This.

[NoVaJack]

Re: The Other Game Sept. 25th

USD, 108-107, after 14 overtimes,

[SoDakJack]

Re: The Other Game Sept. 25th

It is the best interest of the state that both SDSU and USD succeed. The success will bring money, recruits, and recognition to both programs. That being said, rooting against our conference isn't the way to go. The more success that the MVFC has the better the draws are for the conference in the playoffs which could directly affect SDSU.

I want a NDSU victory against USD and then I want USD to have as much success as possible to build our strength of schedule. Hard feelings against schools really only matters in the game we play them.

[West-River_Jack]

Re: The Other Game Sept. 25th

I have to quietly support the 'yotes in this game. I cannot and will not turn my back on fellow South Dakotans. Yes, there are a few USD fans that will be intolerable if they win another big game. However, it will be more honorable for SDSU in the long run to build itself to be better than a good USD team than to hope that USD stumbles and falls allowing SDSU to step over them.

[CatchEmAll]

Re: The Other Game Sept. 25th

So by the law of transitive results...if NDSU beats USD then NDSU would then be a respectable lower division member of the Big Ten by virtue of that victory. AND if Austin Peay should stumble into Wisconsin later this year and pull off an upset, USD could be considered for a Rose Bowl bid based on the fact that USD beat Minnesota, who beat Middle Tennessee State, who beat Austin Peay.

It all makes sense to me now.

Take congratulations where they are due. Don't make a fuss if SDSU fans don't want U. to win every game. Know that, yes, in the post game interview Brewster did say the team was not prepared like they should have been. No, this is not the same Minnesota team as last year, nor is it the same USD team, nor the same SDSU team as last year. Just because U. beat Minnesota does not mean they are 17 points better than SDSU. Minnesota will play USC better than they played U., which would then mean Lane Kiffin could be in Vermillion in two years. And finally, NOT signing a 3/2 deal with USD is good business sense because it puts no additional revenue in SDSU cofers, but puts plenty of $$$ in U.'s cofers. Personally, I think until U. is Title IX compliant like SDSU that SDSU should refuse to play U. in any sport. I can't wait until some U. State Rep cries to the BOR to DEMAND SDSU and U. play every year because it's good for the state. Lowering childhood obesity rates would be good for the state too, but no one is pushing for that very hard at every level.

For the un-initiated, the reason some of us have such distain for U. is NOT because of long standing "rivalries". It has to do with how U. fans, administrators and alumni tried to railroad SDSU's desire to move forward with the athletics program and boost the profile of the University as a whole. No punches were pulled by U. apologists. Yet, when it came time for U. to make the move those same people wanted the transition streamlined so that it would be easier to follow in big brother's footsteps. For me, it has nothing to do with the field of play, it has to do with the chickebleep way U. tried to stop SDSU's vision, and the halfcocked way they've followed in our footsteps.

[thumper_76]

Re: The Other Game Sept. 25th

Am I the only one who hopes NDSU just punishes USD all game? I don't think I'd be able to stand USD fans if they beat U of M AND almost beat/beat NDSU, especially if we have a tough time with the Bison in going for our fourth straight win over the cud-chewers. It was bad enough last year when we lost to their conference mate Cal-Poly.

[filbert]

Re: The Other Game Sept. 25th

Don't drag me into this I've made my points and moved on.

You, Sir, show Uncommonly Good Sense . . .

[1stRowFANatic]

Re: The Other Game Sept. 25th

I agree with CatchEmAll. I cannot express how disappointed I am that a school I have a degree from would ask for a Title IX waiver/exemption/whatever from the BOR. Until that administration is gone from USD, I won't have respect for the university. As for the 25th, I will be cheering for SDSU. Other games are scheduled for that date and I will check in on their progress, but I will only be cheering for SDSU.