NCAA efforts to resolve lawsuits

[JackJD]

More support for those who have concluded the NCAA is the problem,, not a solution. So, sports fans, read the following from the ESPN site...it'll brighten your day -- Not!!

https://www.espn.com/college-sports/...ower-5-schools

[jakejc795]

Thank you for highlighting this, JackJD.

I found the following paragraphs interesting:

"According to a source, one smaller non-power football league was told in the NCAA memo that it would be expected to pay more than $2.5 million per year to help cover the costs of the settlement. A source in that CCA22 league said that amount is approximately 25% of the annual NCAA revenue for the schools in the league.

"We're not named in the lawsuit," said a source in a smaller league. "We don't have a voice in any of this. We're just being told what our taxation is."

Added another source in a CCA22 league: "This is incredibly unfair and has a dramatic impact. I'm losing about 10% of my operating budget. Do I cut two staff members in order for money to go to Zion Williamson? Ninety percent of the money in the suit projects to go to Power 5 football and men's basketball players. The 40% payment for the power conference isn't proportionate."

There's a counter to those numbers, as nearly 300 schools would be paying for 60% of the settlement, whereas 68 power conference schools from the four major football leagues in 2024 would pay for nearly 40%."

Given the reported media rights details, conferences should at least be somewhat better able to absorb costs they may incur as a result of this settlement.

I also could be in the minority, but stories like this are a reason why I like the FCS, or what would be the second tier of college football after a P5 split, even more. If the P5 wants to get "too big for their britches," they can chase the money and have 60 of their schools bear 40 percent of the cost.

Moreover, this could bode well for the Jacks joining the potential G5/Best of FCS "second tier" because the G5 welcoming "us" would expand the pool of schools bearing the cost for similar payments from the group of schools who would not be responsible for "P5-level" payments but would be responsible for payments greater than the "rest of FCS"

[JimmieTuba]

More support for those who have concluded the NCAA is the problem,, not a solution.

The NCAA could absolutely be the solution, if the organization wanted to be. If they took over the CFP like they have both basketball tournaments, and petitioned Congress to grant them anti-trust protection à la the big four (NFL, MLB, etc.), they could set-up collegiate sports in a way that we could all tolerate.

The issue is the P5 presidents and athletic directors see the NCAA as their protection and not as their overseer. This article is a perfect example of that. NCAA should be taking all fees from those mentioned in the lawsuit.

[bigticket1]

Ridiculous that 60 % of the settlement will be paid by G-5 and lower divisions when 90 % of the money goes to P-5 conference players. The old saying " could screw up a two car funeral " seems to be a good description of the NCAA's handling ( or non - handling) of the entire NIL / portal situation.

[jakejc795]

Ridiculous that 60 % of the settlement will be paid by G-5 and lower divisions when 90 % of the money goes to P-5 conference players. The old saying " could screw up a two car funeral " seems to be a good description of the NCAA's handling ( or non - handling) of the entire NIL / portal situation.

It's probably worth directing the "headlights" in the funeral procession to the dynamic alluded to in this quote:

There's a counter to those numbers, as nearly 300 schools would be paying for 60% of the settlement, whereas 68 power conference schools from the four major football leagues in 2024 would pay for nearly 40%

If 300 institutions are indeed paying 60 percent and 68 or so from the P5 paying 40 percent, the "disparity" begins to evaporate under more discerning scrutiny

[bigticket1]

It's probably worth directing the "headlights" in the funeral procession to the dynamic alluded to in this quote:

There's a counter to those numbers, as nearly 300 schools would be paying for 60% of the settlement, whereas 68 power conference schools from the four major football leagues in 2024 would pay for nearly 40%

If 300 institutions are indeed paying 60 percent and 68 or so from the P5 paying 40 percent, the "disparity" begins to evaporate under more discerning scrutiny

Still out of whack if 90 % of the payouts will be going to past and present players from those 68 schools.

[AZjack]

It's probably worth directing the "headlights" in the funeral procession to the dynamic alluded to in this quote:

There's a counter to those numbers, as nearly 300 schools would be paying for 60% of the settlement, whereas 68 power conference schools from the four major football leagues in 2024 would pay for nearly 40%

If 300 institutions are indeed paying 60 percent and 68 or so from the P5 paying 40 percent, the "disparity" begins to evaporate under more discerning scrutiny

Not even close, the proportionality is outrageous in this proposal. The P5 now wants the rest of the NCAA to pay for their arrogance.

Should be 60% P5 and 40%, they made their bed, they can lay in it.

[JackJD]

For those curious about the lawsuit known as House v NCAA -- you can search Google and find quite a bit of information about that lawsuit. Here's a link to a brief summary from "The Athletic". (scroll down a little).

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/550...ntil-saturday/

[jakejc795]

Not even close, the proportionality is outrageous in this proposal. The P5 now wants the rest of the NCAA to pay for their arrogance.

Should be 60% P5 and 40%, they made their bed, they can lay in it.

That's a hyperbolic statement. Again, 68 schools are paying 40 percent of the settlement cost, with 300 paying 60 percent.

Regardless, this is another reason I'm hoping the P5 splits relatively soon, as I can't argue that the P5 often seems hybristic

[AZjack]

That's a hyperbolic statement. Again, 68 schools are paying 40 percent of the settlement cost, with 300 paying 60 percent.

Regardless, this is another reason I'm hoping the P5 splits relatively soon, as I can't argue that the P5 often seems hybristic

Might want to actually look at the real numbers, the P5 paying 40% is a pittance.

Many, many articles out there about how the P5 is laying most of this cost on small schools. The correct way is proportionality by Ath Dept size, especially since all the cash is being paid to former P5 players.

[jakejc795]

Might want to actually look at the real numbers, the P5 paying 40% is a pittance.

Many, many articles out there about how the P5 is laying most of this cost on small schools. The correct way is proportionality by Ath Dept size, especially since all the cash is being paid to former P5 players.

The numbers quoted were from the linked ESPN article; the "proportionality" you advocate is dependent on profit rather than the size of the prospective "pool" paying.

Going back to the funeral analogy, you would seem to advocate that if a family of five has to pay for the funeral the "richest" sibling should pay 60 percent of the cost while the other four split 40 percent. The size of that family being based on essentially1/5 of the schools being P5 with 4/5 being G5, FCS, etc. Sure, you could argue the well-heeled sibling can afford it, but that doesn't mean it's proportional.

As is often the case, it's apparently not as simple as was being argued before. For example, much of the "cost" to lower schools isn't necessarily direct payments, it's funding they'd received in the past being withheld, and P5 schools will be on the hook for proposed revenue sharing to an extent that other schools won't.

Lastly, it's worth mentioning that one reason the settlement became more favorable is that it could resolve antitrust cases that were estimated to cost nearly ten times the settlement cost.

[JackJD]

CBS Sports article on the topic, published online today (May 24):
https://www.cbssports.com/college-fo...ports-at-risk/

[Prairiehaas]

I cannot evaluate to potential of the lawsuit announced this week by AG Jackley. JackJD may be able enlighten us on that. I do wonder though, if the suit is successful could it force the NCAA to push the expense of the settlement up to the larger NCAA schools? Could those schools simply drop out of the NCAA to avoid the cost, leaving the NCAA holding the bag? And, could that push the NCAA into bankruptcy?