NIL and the NCAA

[Prairiehaas]

The article I read in the WSJ stated all the offers made by UNLV and the associated collective were verbal. It also said the schools do not want to put anything into writing to avoid possible pay-for-play sanctions by the NCAA. As for the collective, would a contract between athlete and collective calling for the athlete to play for a certain school, a third party, even be enforceable? I do not know.

[JackJD]

It's hard to determine the actual facts. In the two days or so since Sluka announced he was not going to play the remainder of the season for UNLV. Some on the Holy Cross fan message board (Crossports.com) seem to have had contact with Sluka or at least know him quite well. It's unclear whether the NIL transaction was in writing. If it was not in writing, does Sluka have an equitable argument that in reliance on a verbal promise, he went to UNLV and started performing (UNLV off to a 3-0 start, something that school hasn't done in years). Did the school owe him money? I don't know enough about how NIL works (and it appears neighter do UNLV and Sluka).

Sluka appeared twice in Brookings. He's an electric player, one that can never be counted out. The Jacks absolutely leveled him a couple of times and I would have bet he was out of the game only to watch him return a few plays later and rip through a good SDSU defense.

There may be a bright side in this dispute. One would expect that disputes such as this one will lead to clarification of the NIL rules. There likely will be more disputes in the future. Watching from the cheap seats is the all-important fan base which may be showing signs of retreating and shrinking.

[ringthebells]

As I am sure all of you know already, former Jacks opponent, Matt Sluka has left UNLV over a dispute regarding a verbal offer of $100,000 from one of the assistant coaches prior to the season. The school stated the offer was not valid due to it not coming directly from the head coach.
This brings up an interesting question: do schools and the student athletes sign any sort of deal/contract to have a legal guarantee of how much NIL money they will get? If not, how often will we see a student athlete promised 6 figures and have a very different amount actually come their way?

https://www.espn.com/college-footbal...s-verbal-offer

I heard this morning that the school says they paid him what they promised him, but he is now demanding more $$$ because of how well they are doing. If he quits, can the school get their investment back? This could go all sorts of ways.

[SlapJack]

This situation is disaster. If anything, I give Sluka the benefit of a doubt. He thought he was going to $X from UNLV. Is he a sure NFL pick? Does he burn his last year of eligibility trying for the 2025 draft? Or redshirt and wait for 2026? He might not have a lot of pay day opportunities to cash in on.

Sluka's Agent: This guy didn't think to double check or follow up with anyone at UNLV since last winter? Dude, this is your job.

UNLV: This isn't just an "assistant coach". That implies it could've been a grad assist. Your Offensive Coordinator made this offer. Before acting like Sluka is trying to blackmail UNLV, did you ask your offensive coordinator if he did in fact make that verbal offer? I'm assuming he did because the response changed to "he's not the head coach and is not authorized". How about working to try to make things right. Maybe try to negotiate a lower number. Payment plans, anything. Sluka didn't choose UNLV because it's a FB mecca known for churning out NFL QB's.

You are 3-0 and ranked for the first time in forever. Next step: alienate our starting QB so he quits the team. Sluka wasn't the sole reason for the 3-0 start, but now they've invited drama and distractions into their program. Look for them to finish .500 at best. Oh, and think of the recruiting battles. I'm sure HS kids and transfers are lining up to come here if there are other options. How about impact on other sports? Think of the time wasted doing damage control in the basketball program reassuring kids that they'll follow up on their NIL money. Looks bad for the UNLV athletic dept all around.

/end rant

[EngJack]

As I am sure all of you know already, former Jacks opponent, Matt Sluka has left UNLV over a dispute regarding a verbal offer of $100,000 from one of the assistant coaches prior to the season. The school stated the offer was not valid due to it not coming directly from the head coach.
This brings up an interesting question: do schools and the student athletes sign any sort of deal/contract to have a legal guarantee of how much NIL money they will get? If not, how often will we see a student athlete promised 6 figures and have a very different amount actually come their way?

https://www.espn.com/college-footbal...s-verbal-offer

[peavy]

from the Editor In Chief for College Football at the Athletic:
"Unless you're knee deep in state-by-state NIL laws, you likely missed that Missouri now allows high-school seniors to make money ... IF they pick an-in state school. Lo and behold, Mizzou landed a 5-star this week."

[jakejc795]

Found this on Reddit while trying to keep tabs on the latest PAC 12 news.

Former JMU coach Mike Houston is at East Carolina. His player (not in the portal) was contacted by an unnamed school; ECU contacted the school in question and asked them to stop. It didn't, so they turned in the school to the NCAA for tampering. As someone mentioned, this could be the first instance of a school being officially reported for this, so it'll be interesting to see if anything happens.

Very interested in the details of the contact made. I've often seen player-to-player contact as a potential loophole, and the host indicated it was members of another program, which could mean non-coaching staff.

I also remember JMU benefitting considerably from transfers, so it would be interesting to see both how those transpired and how Houston's "tattling," as the host referred to it, may impact other coaches' scrutiny of ECU practices.

[peavy]

Seems like there should be some punishment from the ncaa for tampering. But with out a backbone Im sure that wont happen.

Found this on Reddit while trying to keep tabs on the latest PAC 12 news.

Former JMU coach Mike Houston is at East Carolina. His player (not in the portal) was contacted by an unnamed school; ECU contacted the school in question and asked them to stop. It didn't, so they turned in the school to the NCAA for tampering. As someone mentioned, this could be the first instance of a school being officially reported for this, so it'll be interesting to see if anything happens.

[salemjack]

I think more people watch women’s college basketball than the WNBA so it wouldn’t shock me if college athletes are making more than the pros…

[ringthebells]

LSU women's basketball is about to buy a national title with their recent acquisition. Funny, the top salary in the WNBA is Arike Ogunbowale of Dallas is making around $240,000 a year. Angel Reese of LSU is at about $1.5 million and counting. NIL money and the transfer portal are taking a toll on my interest in collegiate sports.

I thought I had heard that real money in women's basketball was always over seas...especially in Russia. Putin made the various Oligarchs provide a **** ton of money to promote support for various sports (including women's basketball) in exchange for the lucrative industries like oil, steel, etc. Do many WNBA players get promotional deals? If we are going to compare salaries of WNBA to college players we need to include WNBA salaries along with promotional stuff they do away from the cpurt.

[Cowbell]

LSU women's basketball is about to buy a national title with their recent acquisition. Funny, the top salary in the WNBA is Arike Ogunbowale of Dallas is making around $240,000 a year. Angel Reese of LSU is at about $1.5 million and counting. NIL money and the transfer portal are taking a toll on my interest in collegiate sports.

[98Jackfarmer]

Myah must have struck a deal with Stoneybrook Suites. Saw her in a commercial last night. She talked about playing for SDSU but was in "plain" clothes. Anyone know anything more about it?

[Mr_Tibbs]

So, is SDSU going to put together a list of donors that will pay an NIL so we can keep up with the Jonses/NDSUs of the world or are we ok with losing our studs and not getting the movers from the classes below us? I don't expect us to be able to pay what Alabama, Kansas, Tennessee would pay, but there will be a second tier of movement coming up from D-2 and horizontally from other FCS/mid-majors that we might have a shot at. Heck, disgruntled FBS players may make a move if the money is there.

A part of me likes saying f- that, we aren't going to pay players. Another part of me likes to watch teams that win.

Assuming the NIL stuff does not get restricted or altered soon (and there is a lot of momentum to put more restrictions on it because everyone knows this isn’t sustainable), you better believe we need to start paying up if we want to attract and keep good players. We are never going to be able to pay P5 money, but we need to pay enough to stay competitive in our leagues and subdivision. And that probably means 6 figures for some of your top guys. For the record, I hate the NIL stuff and have always been opposed to paying players. Stipends and cuts from bookstore merchandise are one thing, but the Co-Op stuff is terrible. With that being said, if that’s the new game, we either play it to win it, or we feel good about ourselves while we watch all of our programs slide into mediocrity.

[SUPERBUNNY]

The NIL situation sucks and will have the biggest impact in MBB. Will have an impact in football as well.

Outside of the Baylor situation you could argue the portal/transfer has been very beneficial to SDSU MBB. In the last decade we have had George Marshall, Deondre Parks, Cody Larson, Michael Orris, Charlie Easley, and now Matthew Mors come to SDSU, No doubt leaving a couple out. Yes, Noah moved on as well but that isn't because of an NIL deal. Others that didn't see playing time have moved on as well.

If our programs continue to be successful, we will be a great option for athletes looking for a better opportunity than their current situation.

SDSU is in about as good of a situation as possible to deal with it since we are highly successful in the major sports. School like UND, UNO, UMKC, WiU will really struggle with getting people to transfer in to their schools.

SUPERBUNNY

[ringthebells]

So, is SDSU going to put together a list of donors that will pay an NIL so we can keep up with the Jonses/NDSUs of the world or are we ok with losing our studs and not getting the movers from the classes below us? I don't expect us to be able to pay what Alabama, Kansas, Tennessee would pay, but there will be a second tier of movement coming up from D-2 and horizontally from other FCS/mid-majors that we might have a shot at. Heck, disgruntled FBS players may make a move if the money is there.

A part of me likes saying f- that, we aren't going to pay players. Another part of me likes to watch teams that win.