Oakland survive and advance in the Horizon

[SkippyJack]

This made my Yahoo home page - nice play by Kampe to draw the foul and force OT. They go up against Wright State next.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-...3BtaA--;_ylv=3

[SDSUAlum08]

Re: Oakland survive and advance in the Horizon

This made my Yahoo home page - nice play by Kampe to draw the foul and force OT. They go up against Wright State next.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-...3BtaA--;_ylv=3

I miss that team.

[RowdyRabbit]

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I miss that team.

That was a brilliant call.

First year in the league and Oakland is HOSTING the tournament?

*edit - Oh, the higher seeds get home games the first round, then are off to Green Bay. Personally, I like the Summit's format better.

http://www.horizonleague.org/blog/th...s-advance.html

[Nidaros]

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In the Summit Kampe says the tourney was held at the end of the world. Thanks but no thanks.

[witness]

Re: Oakland survive and advance in the Horizon

What a weak way to end the game. Should have been a no call. No way is that a charge. In fact I would have called that a block just because if it wasn't a no call

[SF_Rabbit_Fan]

Re: Oakland survive and advance in the Horizon

What a weak way to end the game. Should have been a no call. No way is that a charge. In fact I would have called that a block just because if it wasn't a no call

It was a good play call, I've seen similar from high school coaches though.

If Bader was set, its a player control foul on Youngstown, no doubt. I didn't think Bader was set, but whatever.

[witness]

Re: Oakland survive and advance in the Horizon

It was a good play call, I've seen similar from high school coaches though.

If Bader was set, its a player control foul on Youngstown, no doubt. I didn't think Bader was set, but whatever.

Because he wasn't set and should have been a no call or a block. Just a weak way to win the game.

[jacks1]

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I don't like the call, but there is nothing in the rule book that says you need to be "set" to draw a charge or player control foul. It's a made up term basically. Kind of like "over-the-back". No such wording in the rule book.

[filbert]

Re: Oakland survive and advance in the Horizon

I don't like the call, but there is nothing in the rule book that says you need to be "set" to draw a charge or player control foul. It's a made up term basically. Kind of like "over-the-back". No such wording in the rule book.

If I recall correctly, the rule's actual phrasing is "establish defensive position" or something like that. "Set" is shorthand, but it is in fact true (but often ignored by fans and refs alike) that the defender can have properly established a defensive position without being completely stationary.

You are also correct re: "over the back" from my recollection of my read-through of the rules (which I last did a year or so ago, I believe.)

[UWMandSDSU]

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If I recall correctly, the rule's actual phrasing is "establish defensive position" or something like that. "Set" is shorthand, but it is in fact true (but often ignored by fans and refs alike) that the defender can have properly established a defensive position without being completely stationary.

You are also correct re: "over the back" from my recollection of my read-through of the rules (which I last did a year or so ago, I believe.)

Good blog read on some common basketball rules misunderstandings. Rule #2 goes into block/charge foul.

http://www.bordaslaw.com/blog/2014/0...re-wrong.shtml

[JackJD]

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Thanks for that link, UWMandSDSU. Guess I'll be less vocal at the Summit Tourney.

[OldHare]

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It is interesting to find that we are operating from a philosophy for referees now rather than more objective performance and behavior of the players. I would agree that no game should have all contact called if no advantage/disadvantage can be discerned. If I catch the ball on the run, I should not need to dribble the ball since there is no pivot foot much like the guy tipping the ball down the court. This article is very informative to a point, but I would guess there are some fine points another official may view things differently as we can all see from game to game. Officiating is a very difficult job without Philosophy 101. The most difficult part is expecting all officials to recognize and call the same violations every time.. If that happens, I will be quietly applauding next JackJD.

[filbert]

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Personally, I'll still give the stripes the benefit of my kindly, helpful advice.

[jack power]

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Good blog read on some common basketball rules misunderstandings. Rule #2 goes into block/charge foul.

http://www.bordaslaw.com/blog/2014/0...re-wrong.shtml

Good stuff. They need to have the PA announcer read that before every game at Frost.

[2002jack]

Re: Oakland survive and advance in the Horizon

Good blog read on some common basketball rules misunderstandings. Rule #2 goes into block/charge foul.

http://www.bordaslaw.com/blog/2014/0...re-wrong.shtml

WHAT! None of this explains why every team i play/coach/cheer for gets screwed by the refs!

Is there some kind of vandetta against me?

Please explain!




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