UConn men win it all.

[da_coach]

Coach Jim Calhoun has to be the most under rated coach in the NCAA.

And yes, I say that knowing they had some recruiting violations.

That's 3 titles for him.

More than Roy Williams, John Calapari, Bill Self, Tubby Smith, Bob Huggins, or anyone else who is considered one of the "top" coaches.

Seriously, who thinks of Jim Calhoun when you think of elite coaches?

Maybe we should.

That program was nothing/nada/zip when he took them over.

[goon]

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Coach Jim Calhoun has to be the most under rated coach in the NCAA.

And yes, I say that knowing they had some recruiting violations.

That's 3 titles for him.

More than Roy Williams, John Calapari, Bill Self, Tubby Smith, Bob Huggins, or anyone else who is considered one of the "top" coaches.

Seriously, who thinks of Jim Calhoun when you think of elite coaches?

Maybe we should.

That program was nothing/nada/zip when he took them over.

Dont forget Brad Stevens has been to 2 straight title games and is half his age. He looks like a coach who has a bright future. There could be a lot of oppertunities for him to move if he wants but he has a good thing going there now from the looks of it.

[RabbitObsessed]

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What an awful game. That is why I like watching the pros better than college, but I realize I'm in the minority.

[propar80]

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What an awful game. That is why I like watching the pros better than college, but I realize I'm in the minority.

I enjoyed the first half...that was excellent defense by both teams, but the 2nd half Butler couldn't throw it in the ocean and was hard to watch. I felt sorry for Butler. Even shooting 30% they win that game.

But one game doesn't make the NCAA tournament or NCAA Basketball as a whole unwatchable as some "talking heads" on the radio like to make it sound today.


Go Jacks!!

[RabbitObsessed]

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I enjoyed the first half...that was excellent defense by both teams, but the 2nd half Butler couldn't throw it in the ocean and was hard to watch. I felt sorry for Butler. Even shooting 30% they win that game.

But one game doesn't make the NCAA tournament or NCAA Basketball as a whole unwatchable as some "talking heads" on the radio like to make it sound today.


Go Jacks!!

You call it good defense, I call it horrendous offense. Those two teams just weren't the best college basketball had to offer.

You are right, though, about one game not making CBB good or bad. I just don't watch it until the tournament comes around, other than SDSU, of course. And the tournament is generally awesome. The first weekend is amazing, and then it slowly get's worse. In my opinion.

I just like the NBA better because the players are more talented. I know most people disagree, though.

[da_coach]

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I am also a bigger fan of the NBA, however this is a recent development, probably in the past two years.

For the following reasons:

1. Reffing is terrible in both, but it's more consistent in the NBA.

2. "Big Time" coaches can, and do, influence officiating.

3. The series thing... it makes for an interesting and compelling story to have the one loss and you're out format, but it doesn't make for your best teams winning.

4. The whole "cheating" thing. Like the fab 5 having their banners taken down. Derrick Rose, while playing for coach Calipari at Memphis, having a "stand in" take his ACT/SAT(whatever it was).

And then you find out about this stuff, well after the fact.

[goon]

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I am also a bigger fan of the NBA, however this is a recent development, probably in the past two years.

For the following reasons:

1. Reffing is terrible in both, but it's more consistent in the NBA.

2. "Big Time" coaches can, and do, influence officiating.

3. The series thing... it makes for an interesting and compelling story to have the one loss and you're out format, but it doesn't make for your best teams winning.

4. The whole "cheating" thing. Like the fab 5 having their banners taken down. Derrick Rose, while playing for coach Calipari at Memphis, having a "stand in" take his ACT/SAT(whatever it was).

And then you find out about this stuff, well after the fact.

1. Reffing is terrible in both, but it's more consistent in the NBA.

Good thing I was not drinking a soda because my computer would have been soaked. This is the worst its been for NCAA reffing in the tourney, aside from some summit league refs its pretty good.

The NBA is a bunch of whining superstar who think they are gods gift basketball, if they don’t get a call they always whine until they do. I think the NBA got rid of traveling which was good because they didn't call it anyway, and continuations, a slap on the hand and run 5 steps and make a shot, is not continuation. Its sad watching NBA refs.

You mention Rose, but don't mention B Knight how well he is doing overall academically. Just a few bad choices by 18 year olds and a few coaches who let it slide, is not fair to lump the rest who play by the rules with them.

You say coaches influence reffing, which I feel the NBA the players intimidate the refs more then anything.

[goon]

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Kemba Walker, Winning.

[Madi V:)Mitchell]

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Kemba Walker, Winning.

I really thought Butler was going to win it, I knew they were capable of it. I was surprised that they only shot 18%, or something like that. I mean Uconn is a great team, but wow. I thought Butler was going to take it.

[jackmd]

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What an awful game. That is why I like watching the pros better than college, but I realize I'm in the minority.

2 and 1/2 hours of my life that I can never get back. I actually felt bad for the fans that attended the game.

[rabidrabbit]

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Butler had many shots that just wouldn't fall for anything. UConn was good defensively, but not so good that on any average shooting day that they would have won. UConn's coach's suggested adjustments at the half worked. Butler's didn't.

Hard to believe that was the championship. Not much in the way of pretty basketball plays.

[jackmd]

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The NBA is a bunch of whining superstar who think they are gods gift basketball, if they don’t get a call they always whine until they do. I think the NBA got rid of traveling which was good because they didn't call it anyway, and continuations, a slap on the hand and run 5 steps and make a shot, is not continuation. Its sad watching NBA refs.

Those superstars play amazing basketball most of the time. Sometimes there is an extra step taken, sometimes its just happening so fast you think they traveled. I prefer that the officials let those superstars play because they are awesome to watch.

The level of ability and talent in the NBA so greatly exceeds that in the NCAA it makes comparisons irrelevant if not impossible. That doesn't mean it's a better brand of basketball too watch it's just the facts.

In the arena I prefer college basketball at most levels over the NBA, on television I'll take the NBA, especially rivalry games or during the playoffs.

[RowdyRabbit]

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2 and 1/2 hours of my life that I can never get back. I actually felt bad for the fans that attended the game.

I was eating a bowl of Cookies n Cream ice cream during the 1st half. More of it ended up in my lap because my jaw was on the ground due to terrible basketball.

I fell asleep 5 minutes into the second half and woke up with 30 seconds to go.

[da_coach]

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You say coaches influence reffing, which I feel the NBA the players intimidate the refs more then anything.

I had to double check if you were one of the big Duke fans.
yep.

The officiating in the NCAA is poor, at best.

Watch a regulation NBA game from start to finish, and watch an NCAA game the same day.
It's not even close.

And like Doc, said...the talent in the NBA is vastly superior.
How many DI colleges? How many total players?
30 NBA Teams total... all those college players trying to make those 30 teams... And the true professional players stay in the league for well over 10 years.

I was a bigger college fan for years. 5 years ago me would have considered it sacriledge to like the NBA bettter. But it's better.

I still like college ball. I didn't say college basketball = bad. It's just different.

And to bring the subject back around to UConn....why isn't Coach Calhoun respected?

I know he's an arrogant jerk. But there are lots of those in this profession, and many of them are revered. He built a program up from nothing, joined arguably the toughest conference in the NCAA, and has won 3 titles.

[goon]

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I had to double check if you were one of the big Duke fans.
yep.

The officiating in the NCAA is poor, at best.

Watch a regulation NBA game from start to finish, and watch an NCAA game the same day.
It's not even close.

And like Doc, said...the talent in the NBA is vastly superior.
How many DI colleges? How many total players?
30 NBA Teams total... all those college players trying to make those 30 teams... And the true professional players stay in the league for well over 10 years.

I was a bigger college fan for years. 5 years ago me would have considered it sacriledge to like the NBA bettter. But it's better.

I still like college ball. I didn't say college basketball = bad. It's just different.

And to bring the subject back around to UConn....why isn't Coach Calhoun respected?

I know he's an arrogant jerk. But there are lots of those in this profession, and many of them are revered. He built a program up from nothing, joined arguably the toughest conference in the NCAA, and has won 3 titles.

If calling fouls that are suppose to be fouls is poor officating then your right, I don't even know why they have some rules in the NBA because they are never called.

Your right, Duke has it tought because if you watch, refs hold Duke to a higher standard and they have to play above lesser teams most nights who try to ugly up the game to get the officials in it. How many scandals besides The fab five in college and a few missed calls have the NCAA officals had? Now how about the NBA? the NBA officials I think are the worst in all of sports, professional or college level.

Why don't people like Bobby Knight? he is a jerk to some but never did anything wrong as a coach when it came to the NCAA, but but still dislike him even though he is the all times win leader. Calhoun is respected by most, just most don't like him, I think there is a difference.

Of course the NBA is better, its most of the best players in the world, and a lot, if not most came through college. Comparing college to NBA is apples to oranges. If you were saying NBA to the old CBA, yes the NBA is much better. College is young student athletes who have a lot to do besides play basketball or football. Most are good students, the NBA there job is to play basketball, they are physically bigger older and have more time to develop playing basketball, I don't think some, not saying on here, but some basketball fans don't appreciate the commitment college athletes have to make.