Moved Sam Ostarello posts

[JimmyJack]

Re: 2010 Recruiting

As far as the quality of a Purdue education goes, you get out of college what you put into it, and because of that, it doesn't really matter where you go, as long as it's accredited.

The idea, for instance, that Purdue offers a better education than SDSU is no more sustainable than asserting the opposite (that SDSU offers a better education than Purdue).

Having been a professor at both universities (and as a graduate of both SDSU and a Big Ten school) I can say you're right... and you're wrong.

There is no arguing the fact that Purdue offers more opportunities to its students than SDSU does. More majors. More facilities. More professors with international reputations. More student organizations. More athletic facilities. More money (Purdue's annual budget is about the same as the budget of the entire state of South Dakota). Essentially, Purdue offers more, and a wider variety of everything.

I wouldn't be at SDSU if I didn't think this institution does a fantastic job of educating young people. Students get a great college experience here, with plenty of opportunity and they earn a degree with excellent marketplace value. But we simply cannot match the breadth of opportunities that await students at a Big Ten university.

That said, Zooropa is correct. When it comes to college, one size does not fit all. Some young people might feel lost among the 40,000 students at Purdue. Others might thrive there. Depends on the kid, and on what he or she puts into the experience.

For her sake, I hope Ostarello thrives there. The experience of not fitting in or feeling comfortable somewhere isn't a good one. I really don't wish her anything but success at Purdue. There are plenty of players who want to come to SDSU and play.

[darkerstill]

Re: 2010 Recruiting

sdsu is going to be just fine.

Amen

[jackrabbit1979]

Re: 2010 Recruiting

"Verbally committed" does not mean "accepted an offer". If I recall the text of the article correctly, she apologized to AJ about going to Purdue. Regardless of the exact substance of their conversations, she had indicated to AJ that she intended to go to SDSU, thus the reason why I said that she had 'verbaled' to SDSU.

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BTW, I'm glad you thought better of the earlier "A Purdue education is a Purdue education" remark.

I didn't think better of my remarks. While I think a lot of an SDSU education, an education in the Big Ten has its advantages. Maybe not necessarily with logical folks like yourself, but with outsiders who think an education at SDSU can't be equal to more high-profile schools of the Big Ten. Those people are out there.

Either way, for the sake of not clogging up the board or this thread any more, you can PM me if you want to continue this peeing match. I tried to give it up a few posts ago.

[zooropa]

Re: 2010 Recruiting

Her intention might have been there, but there was no offer and she had not verbally committed. That's a big difference and the latter is what you were leading on to in your first posts. Either way, it's water under the bridge now.

And you can trust me when I say I am no where close to one of the people living in SD that dismisses, or offers apologies and explanations for SD or the quality of an SDSU education. In fact, I might be quite the opposite.

"Verbally committed" does not mean "accepted an offer". If I recall the text of the article correctly, she apologized to AJ about going to Purdue. Regardless of the exact substance of their conversations, she had indicated to AJ that she intended to go to SDSU, thus the reason why I said that she had 'verbaled' to SDSU.

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BTW, I'm glad you thought better of the earlier "A Purdue education is a Purdue education" remark.

[jackrabbit1979]

Re: 2010 Recruiting

Yeah. She had a room full of SDSU gear, and teared up calling AJ to tell him she was going to Purdue. Obviously had -=no=- intention of going to SDSU.

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As far as the quality of a Purdue education goes, you get out of college what you put into it, and because of that, it doesn't really matter where you go, as long as it's accredited.

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And while I certainly wouldn't blame the kid, I would blame the people that, as Filbert pointed out in the Ostarello thread, suffer from SDIC. I'm sick and tired of people that live in South Dakota dismissing South Dakota, or offering apologies and explanations for South Dakota.

The idea, for instance, that Purdue offers a better education than SDSU is no more sustainable than asserting the opposite (that SDSU offers a better education than Purdue).

Her intention might have been there, but there was no offer and she had not verbally committed. That's a big difference and the latter is what you were leading on to in your first posts. Either way, it's water under the bridge now.

And you can trust me when I say I am no where close to one of the people living in SD that dismisses, or offers apologies and explanations for SD or the quality of an SDSU education. In fact, I might be quite the opposite.

[zooropa]

Re: 2010 Recruiting

Actually, if you want to be specific, the post never mentions Sam telling AJ she was going to attend SDSU. I don't recall the article saying this either. All that was mentioned is that Sam was interested in attending SDSU until she received the offer from Purdue and then she started sobbing when she called AJ to tell him she was accepting their offer.

Either way, you can't really blame the kid. As much as I want her to stay in state, a Purdue education is a Purdue education.

Yeah. She had a room full of SDSU gear, and teared up calling AJ to tell him she was going to Purdue. Obviously had -=no=- intention of going to SDSU.

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As far as the quality of a Purdue education goes, you get out of college what you put into it, and because of that, it doesn't really matter where you go, as long as it's accredited.

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And while I certainly wouldn't blame the kid, I would blame the people that, as Filbert pointed out in the Ostarello thread, suffer from SDIC. I'm sick and tired of people that live in South Dakota dismissing South Dakota, or offering apologies and explanations for South Dakota.

The idea, for instance, that Purdue offers a better education than SDSU is no more sustainable than asserting the opposite (that SDSU offers a better education than Purdue).

[jackrabbit1979]

Re: 2010 Recruiting

She was never offered a scholarship. However, she had told AJ she was planning on attending SDSU.

http://www.sdsufans.com/board/showpo...32&postcount=2

Wouldn't her telling AJ she was planning on attending be a verbal commitment? I don't think she ever did that, at least not publically...

[zooropa]

Re: 2010 Recruiting

She never verballed to SDSU. We were just highly considering here at the time she made contact with Purdue.

She was never offered a scholarship. However, she had told AJ she was planning on attending SDSU.

http://www.sdsufans.com/board/showpo...32&postcount=2

[BTownJack]

Re: 2010 Recruiting

From the article TV wrote, she was in tears when she called AJ to back out of the verbal she'd given the Jacks as (IIRC) a sophomore.





Without going too far into specifics, I would not bet against her taking the Jill Young route.

That's not to say I expect her to transfer out of Purdue.




Just that I wouldn't be surprised at all if she did.

She never verballed to SDSU. We were just highly considering here at the time she made contact with Purdue.

[JamesJacks]

Re: 2010 Recruiting

sdsu is going to be just fine.

[zooropa]

Re: 2010 Recruiting

I would imagine the door will always be open to Sam. I did also hear she did have some regrets after commiting early. I would seriously doubt if AJ and crew would burn any bridges with potential recruits / transfers. Regardless I wish Sam the best of luck. Maybe the Jacks well see her somewhere down the road.

GBGBGJ

From the article TV wrote, she was in tears when she called AJ to back out of the verbal she'd given the Jacks as (IIRC) a sophomore.





Without going too far into specifics, I would not bet against her taking the Jill Young route.

That's not to say I expect her to transfer out of Purdue.




Just that I wouldn't be surprised at all if she did.

[JimmyJack]

Re: 2010 Recruiting

I wonder if she has any regrets about that decision now considering SDSU has gone bigtime (meaning national rankings) since she made that choice. It wouldn't be completely out of the question for her to pull a Jill Young and commit back to SDSU. (hey, we can always hope at least )

You never know. Purdue is a great university with awesome academics and a great athletic program.

[Chains]

Re: 2010 Recruiting

I wonder if she has any regrets about that decision now considering SDSU has gone bigtime (meaning national rankings) since she made that choice. It wouldn't be completely out of the question for her to pull a Jill Young and commit back to SDSU. (hey, we can always hope at least )

I would imagine the door will always be open to Sam. I did also hear she did have some regrets after commiting early. I would seriously doubt if AJ and crew would burn any bridges with potential recruits / transfers. Regardless I wish Sam the best of luck. Maybe the Jacks well see her somewhere down the road.

GBGBGJ

[State_fan]

Re: 2010 Recruiting

Correct...all of those posts were here before shinman joined, so understandable he didn't know that. SDSU pursued Sam hard and were in the door until she got pushed toward Purdue. I reiterate the point, because AJ and staff DON'T overlook any potential D-1 South Dakota girls.

I wonder if she has any regrets about that decision now considering SDSU has gone bigtime (meaning national rankings) since she made that choice. It wouldn't be completely out of the question for her to pull a Jill Young and commit back to SDSU. (hey, we can always hope at least )

[Jacks#1Fan]

Re: 2010 Recruiting

If I remember correctly it had more to do with the administrator at Sam Ostarello's school who has SDSU ties who took her down to Purdue.

Correct...all of those posts were here before shinman joined, so understandable he didn't know that. SDSU pursued Sam hard and were in the door until she got pushed toward Purdue. I reiterate the point, because AJ and staff DON'T overlook any potential D-1 South Dakota girls.