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    Default Potential new redshirt rule allows freshman to play in up to 4 games while redshirtin

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    Default Re: Potential new redshirt rule allows freshman to play in up to 4 games while redshi

    Quote Originally Posted by witness View Post
    And at the end of the article it talks about the proposed change in transfer rules where kids don't have to sit out a year is dead. For this year anyways.

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    Default Re: Potential new redshirt rule allows freshman to play in up to 4 games while redshi

    Scott Frost thinks open-transfer is a terrible idea -- cites Goedert as an example why.

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    The redshirt adjustment rule passed. Players can now play in up to 4 games and still redshirt
    https://twitter.com/yahoodrsaturday/...250220039?s=21
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    Default Re: Potential new redshirt rule allows freshman to play in up to 4 games while redshi

    Here is the Argus report on the rule changes:

    https://www.argusleader.com/story/bl...ble/699263002/

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    IMO, these changes particularly about transfers were long over due. College athletics is about competition but for administrators to stand in the way of someone who wants to transfer seems to restrict competition. In the real world this would not fly. This new attempt will work I believe despite the very valid points made by Scott Frost, who is quickly adapting to the image of Tom Osborne by his photo in the article link by jacksfaninne. After living in Nebraska for 20 years, I was hammered daily with images of the great Tom Osbone, how can I not mention?

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    I think the way I would have dealt with this is:
    All scholarship offers are guaranteed until graduation regardless of eligibility, Performance, Etc.(illegal activity and making the University look bad being the only out.).

    Keep the no interference rule and the sit out a year (no offical team activities. So Actually sit out), but if a player sit's out they are entitled to keep their eligibility (one year longer) so long as in good standing and taking at least one class.

    No real Penalty for the kids that way like switching jobs a bit, but makes it harder to leave the girl that brought you.
    Also get rid of the one and done rule that is pure garbage.

    Disclaimer* This is officially a half baked Idea, But College sports is going to get less fun for me potentially to the point where I don't care anymore. If you can't keep the good guys around it could potentially be like having all freshmen every year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slosho View Post
    I think the way I would have dealt with this is:
    All scholarship offers are guaranteed until graduation regardless of eligibility, Performance, Etc.(illegal activity and making the University look bad being the only out.).

    Keep the no interference rule and the sit out a year (no offical team activities. So Actually sit out), but if a player sit's out they are entitled to keep their eligibility (one year longer) so long as in good standing and taking at least one class.

    No real Penalty for the kids that way like switching jobs a bit, but makes it harder to leave the girl that brought you.
    Also get rid of the one and done rule that is pure garbage.

    Disclaimer* This is officially a half baked Idea, But College sports is going to get less fun for me potentially to the point where I don't care anymore. If you can't keep the good guys around it could potentially be like having all freshmen every year.
    I agree with most of this but look at a couple of things different.

    Your scholarship is guaranteed while you are still eligible to play regardless of performance. If you play your first 4 seasons and still need a couple of credits the next year, you have to pay. That way you don't take up a scholarship even though you didn't graduate. If your grades drop, illegal activity or something like that they can pull your scholarship.

    I like the sit out a year rule but I think they should be able to practice. I'm sure they are taking a scholarship so why not let them practice? They can transfer to any team at any time (no blocking certain schools) but they have to sit out. That way everybody doesn't jump ship every year. The only way they don't have to sit out is if the team is dropped, the coach leaves or something like that.

    I heard that Jay Bilis thinks they should be able to play right away if they transfer because other students don't have to sit out when they switch schools. I think that college athletes are payed by the school so they is a deference there. I guess some students might have other scholarships that give them $30,000/year but I think athletes should be in a different class.

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    Default Re: Potential new redshirt rule allows freshman to play in up to 4 games while redshi

    Quote Originally Posted by 91jack View Post
    I like the sit out a year rule but I think they should be able to practice. I'm sure they are taking a scholarship so why not let them practice? They can transfer to any team at any time (no blocking certain schools) but they have to sit out. That way everybody doesn't jump ship every year. The only way they don't have to sit out is if the team is dropped, the coach leaves or something like that.
    Makes it a bit tougher to transition, and they can't grow by leaps and bounds (with the coaches until playing again) in an offical capacity, also when they are done they would be one more year senior then a 4 year so it's to make up for that a bit as well (at least in my mind)

    The other option is to declare all Div 1 Revenue Sport Athletes as Semi-Pro (I'm thinking like the Stampede)
    Because until someone sues based on the fact that football/basketball are treated different then say wrestling (Connor brown) The NCAA just isn't going admit that it doesn't really care about the sports that don't make it money, and the rules will still be tiered (and there's no logical explanation the NCAA could give as to why, Of course that might be why they made this change).
    Last edited by slosho; 06-14-2018 at 02:52 PM. Reason: speling lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by slosho View Post
    Makes it a bit tougher to transition, and they can't grow by leaps and bounds (with the coaches until playing again) in an offical capacity, also when they are done they would be one more year senior then a 4 year so it's to make up for that a bit as well (at least in my mind)

    The other option is to declare all Div 1 Revenue Sport Athletes as Semi-Pro (I'm thinking like the Stampede)
    Because until someone sues based on the fact that football/basketball are treated different then say wrestling (Connor brown) The NCAA just isn't going admit that it doesn't really care about the sports that don't make it money, and the rules will still be tiered (and there's no logical explanation the NCAA could give as to why, Of course that might be why they made this change).
    I see your point.
    I guess that has me wondering, how many mid-major (or whatever you want to call them) players would transfer 2 or 3 times and spend 7 years in college just to play ball (if you have to sit out every time you transfer)? They already can spend 5 years with a redshirt year. I guess Skyler and Nicole Seekamp might be in that category. The thing with Skyler and Nicole is that they stayed at one school. With the transfer rule, you would have to transfer every other season so they couldn't get used to a coach moving every two years.
    Especially in MBB with less scholarships, would you take on a lot of 6th and 7th year players and waste a scholarship for two years to have somebody play for one season? I guess SDSU only had about 8 players in MBB last year so they might do that.

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