Fred Oien article

[Nidaros]

Re: Fred Oien article

What does a gray one mean? I've gotten a couple now. Is it neutral, just someone acknowledging that I wrote something?

If you are talking about User CP, the person giving you points postive or negative has not been on the board and made sufficient posts to make the point count or deduct I suspose. I doubt its a warning from the mods. Its probably rep points from your fellow yotes who are new comers to this board.

[mango4]

Re: Fred Oien article

What does a gray one mean? I've gotten a couple now. Is it neutral, just someone acknowledging that I wrote something?

Maybe it's a warning from the mods

[RabbitObsessed]

Re: Fred Oien article

Hey, negative rep points are flying freely today. I picked one up myself.

What does a gray one mean? I've gotten a couple now. Is it neutral, just someone acknowledging that I wrote something?

[zooropa]

Re: Fred Oien article

He'd walk into a public place and spot someone he knew and ask in a loud voice a question which implied some outrageous underlying fact: "Hey, you still sleeping with your sister?" It always got a laugh.

That's the most interesting variation of the 'Have you stopped beating your wife?' question I've seen. BTW: what's the accepted name for those types of questions in the legal realm, as television has taught me that you can't ask them in court.

[yotemeal]

Re: Fred Oien article

FYI -- The use of unauthorized license plate stickers is a class 2 misdemeanor.
http://legis.state.sd.us/statutes/Di...atute=32-5-139

[JimmyJack]

Re: Fred Oien article

Fact is, working for the state should not make it possible for anyone in the world to have access to your personnel file.

Right. Other than job classification and salary information, which is readily available in every state where I have worked (including South Dakota) privacy rules protect access to personnel information pretty much everywhere.

You can get state employee salary information here:

http://open.sd.gov/

You can look me up there if you wish. Does that bug me? No. Taxpayers pay a portion of my salary, so I understand that information should be available to them. Other than that, it's between me and my supervisors.

[Jacks#1Fan]

Re: Fred Oien article

I'm jusy asking for a grown man to be accountable. That's all.

OK...I know I said final post twice before. I have a "dog in the hunt" as one other poster said (or maybe TJ...I don't have time to look it up). That's because I know the guy and I will be willing to bet I know more about the "facts" than you do, but I get tired of answering what some other people think are facts.

Fact 1: Stu Whitney and the Argus went to the President last year and demanded to have Dr. Oien's personnel file. The President responded that ALL personnel files are closed per South Dakota law.

Fact 2: A lawsuit was mentioned, and the President sought legal advice, affirmed by the Attorney General, that the file cannot be released under South Dakota law. End of that avenue.

That definitely got Stu Whitney's shorts tied up, and you can bet today won't be the last time he brings it up. Personally, I believe it will start to wear thin with the general public before long...although there are some people who won't ever stop (especially if you dislike the guy because he fired you).

I find it odd TJ, that you would now say you meant in an official capacity at the Summit League tournament (that's not what you said earlier). Why wasn't he there in an official capacity...because he had retired from the job...remember? I'll respond with PMs if I ever feel the need to read this thread again.

[JimmyJack]

Re: Fred Oien article

I don't think that dedicated service to a place that hands you a check every two weeks in return gives you free reign, especially when you're a state employee representing and entire university and in part, an entire state.

I'm jusy asking for a grown man to be accountable. That's all.

I agree, of course. State employees should be held to a high standard of decorum.

But then again, Fred has retired, and I wish him well in his retirement. We have a new AD. This story seems to be a fading memory everywhere but here. I was on campus for several hours today, talked to maybe a dozen people and nobody had this story on their minds.

I think people who have particular concerns about the story should talk to TV. Or you could raise your concerns with Maricarrol Kueter, the executive editor and an SDSU graduate.

[zooropa]

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As far as Oien staying on after 2004, I once heard (can't remember where, so take it for what it's worth) that Oien offered to resign, and Miller wouldn't hear of it.

The article does make Miller look a fair bit clueless, but as to Chicoine and the state's open records laws....

Fact is, working for the state should not make it possible for anyone in the world to have access to your personnel file.

I say 'let's compare scars'. I want to see Whitney's personnel file from Gannett, if he wants to see Oien's.

Has STU ever been under investigation for improper conduct? Inquiring minds want to know!!!

Furthermore, what did Whitney EXPECT Chicoine to say? "We don't want this guy to leave with any dignity. I never saw him do anything, but let me recite for you EVERY report that came across my desk!!!!!!!"

I would certainly NEVER want to see the head of the state's flagship university acting like an old gossip during a newspaper interview.

[89rabbit]

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Thanks for the link 89. When I purchased my plates I went on the internet right trying to find the official place to get the stickers (I didn't even know for sure if there were official stickers). Couldn't find them so I went the other route. My are just like the "official" ones save for the words around the SD logo.

Any chance South Dakota makes a whole, colored plate dedicated to SDSU like Iowa does for the 'clones and Hawks?

I don't want to pick a fight or anything, but your decals are not "just like the "official" ones", they are not legal because they are not sanctioned by South Dakota law. They are too large and do not benefit an approved nonprofit organization. They conform to neither the spirit nor the letter of the law.

Here is the link, again, from the South Dakota Department of Revenue & Regulations - Motor Vehicles Division

http://www.state.sd.us/drr2/motorveh...ial_plates.htm

on it, you will find this link for the Organization Decal Guide. (The guides are available in print form at all county treasurer offices.)

This provides all the approved nonprofit organizations that have decals and how to get them (click on South Dakota State University).

If you want to be legal you should replace your counterfeit decals with genuine and legal decals by contacting the Alumni Association.

Finally, as you can see from this site South Dakota doesn't have an option like Iowa.


Go State!

[TeaJackrabbit]

Re: Fred Oien article

Thanks for the link 89. When I purchased my plates I went on the internet right trying to find the official place to get the stickers (I didn't even know for sure if there were official stickers). Couldn't find them so I went the other route. My are just like the "official" ones save for the words around the SD logo.

Any chance South Dakota makes a whole, colored plate dedicated to SDSU like Iowa does for the 'clones and Hawks?

[Nidaros]

Re: Fred Oien article

I don't think that dedicated service to a place that hands you a check every two weeks in return gives you free reign, especially when you're a state employee representing and entire university and in part, an entire state.

I'm jusy asking for a grown man to be accountable. That's all.

Accountable how? What are you driving at? A flogging perhaps, on no not that.

[TeaJackrabbit]

Re: Fred Oien article

So what's the problem with a free pass for Dr.Oien? I think he has earned it.

I don't think that dedicated service to a place that hands you a check every two weeks in return gives you free reign, especially when you're a state employee representing and entire university and in part, an entire state.

I'm jusy asking for a grown man to be accountable. That's all.

[Cowbell]

Re: Fred Oien article

Great. State government, in an attempt to allow non-profit groups to raise money for their organizations, provides a unique way (via license plates) for that to happen. What happens? Well, non-compliant types figure out ways to beat the system. Yeah, the program will go away because there are some folks who have a knack for always trying to find ways to break the rules...wrecking it for everyone else.

[TeaJackrabbit]

Re: Fred Oien article

I not so sure its a conspiracy but the sports department of the Argus seems to be chasing their own tail and in the process they are bringing up stuff that is about as relevent as your comments about your perfect family life.

Not sure where you get the perfect family life stuff. Maybe I'll send you a personal message at some point and share some of the struggles my family has been through.

We can disagree, which we do, but no need to get personal and ugly. Just give me more give me more negative points, that'll teach me!