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  • bigticket1
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    Re: Seth Gross

    Originally posted by DenverJack View Post
    I heard the rumors before I read them on this board and, like all of you, hope that they aren’t true. I came here to see what other Jackrabbit wrestling fans are thinking about info that is already out there. What is a message board for if it isn’t to discuss what we are hearing? Should anyone publishing unsubstantiated claims such as: “I heard recruit X is leaning towards the Jacks” be afraid? Or is it only the negative rumors that will be punished? Message boards don’t constitute journalism. We are just fans coming together to discuss the team(s) we support, and should be treated as such.
    To me, that's comparing apples to oranges. The nature of the recruiting process is speculating where a recruit may end up. Saying a recruit is leaning to a particular school does no damage to either the recruit or the program. But circulating unsubstantiated rumors about a current player can potentially harm both the athlete and/or the program.
    Last edited by bigticket1; 01-21-2019, 10:13 AM.

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  • DenverJack
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    Re: Seth Gross

    I heard the rumors before I read them on this board and, like all of you, hope that they aren’t true. I came here to see what other Jackrabbit wrestling fans are thinking about info that is already out there. What is a message board for if it isn’t to discuss what we are hearing? Should anyone publishing unsubstantiated claims such as: “I heard recruit X is leaning towards the Jacks” be afraid? Or is it only the negative rumors that will be punished? Message boards don’t constitute journalism. We are just fans coming together to discuss the team(s) we support, and should be treated as such.

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  • JackJD
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    Re: Seth Gross

    Originally posted by filbert View Post
    Yeah, I'll own it.

    My bad.
    Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain...
    The Wonderful Wizard of Oz,
    Baum, L. Frank, 1900
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWyCCJ6B2WE

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  • filbert
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    Re: Seth Gross

    Originally posted by SoDakJack View Post
    From what is being said, this policy is what made Seth decide to have back surgery to end his season. People have been saying he would rather sit the year than cite his sources.
    Yeah, I'll own it.

    My bad.

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  • BigGoosie13
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    Re: Seth Gross

    Originally posted by BTownJack View Post
    Mike Daum was a lock to go to Wisconsin about this time last year too..............
    And how many different times was Nate supposedly transferring to Minnesota back in the day?

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  • UWMandSDSU
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    Re: Seth Gross

    Originally posted by MontanaRabbit View Post
    Also isn’t Seth’s girlfriend from Brookings?
    Yes, Ronna Heaton (dad is Tim Heaton, SDSU Chief of Police). She is a darn good wrestler as well.

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  • MontanaRabbit
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    Re: Seth Gross

    One thing with Seth is his relationship with SDSU is different than most student athletes. After getting kicked off the team at Iowa there weren’t a ton of programs that were begging him to come wrestle for them. Actually quite the opposite he was “begging” for a second chance. I have to think the ultimate decision whether they brought in Seth rested with Justin Sell. So, although Bono leaving creates a convenient narrative there is another side to Seth’s story.

    Also isn’t Seth’s girlfriend from Brookings?

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  • Sodakbull
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    Re: Seth Gross

    I was pretty sure this rumor wasn't true when the idea was put out that he was faking being injured in order to .... I have seen this same rumor before with three different kids that I know who were experiencing extended health issues. Before the diagnosis was completed kids weresaying that they were faking it. Kids don't fake being sick for extended periods of time. Maybe for a few days to get out of a test or something like that but not for many many months.

    I hope Seth gets his issues taken care of and he can become fully healed. Back injuries are serious and hopefully he can make a complete recovery for his health not only short term but hopefully he doesn't have long term issues, which is really the most important. I would love to come see him wrestle for SDSU again.

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  • goon
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    Re: Seth Gross

    Originally posted by BTownJack View Post
    Mike Daum was a lock to go to Wisconsin about this time last year too..............
    Right. I heard after his soph year in the summit tourney he was gone. Like usd fans were celebrating because rumor was daum was gone one school was out.

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  • SoDakJack
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    Re: Seth Gross

    Originally posted by filbert View Post
    The attribution rule isn't "never post anything you heard." It's "if you post something you heard, cite by name the person, web site, or news outlet you got it from."

    That's citing BY SPECIFIC NAME.

    "I heard from Assistant Coach Joe Blow that . . . "
    "I heard from the assistant volunteer floor sweeper Pat Patterson that . . . "
    "I heard from Bruno Mars when we were shooting Fireballs in the bar that . . . "
    "I saw a tweet from Ace Reporter, the beat writer for the University of Okoboji Competitive Drinking Team that . . . "
    "I saw a post on ReallyRidiculousRumors.com that said that . . ."
    (the latter two should be accompanied by a link, by the way)

    These sorts of statements are acceptable here, as they allow people to judge for themselves the veracity and reliability of your information.

    If you're going to post it, own it. And owning it includes reporting EXACTLY where you got the "info" from.

    Anything else is rank rumormongering. Period. And doing rumormongering will get you in trouble here.

    I frankly don't care if people like the policy or not. I expect there will be a fair number of people who don't like it.

    Tough.
    From what is being said, this policy is what made Seth decide to have back surgery to end his season. People have been saying he would rather sit the year than cite his sources.

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  • filbert
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    Re: Seth Gross

    The attribution rule isn't "never post anything you heard." It's "if you post something you heard, cite by name the person, web site, or news outlet you got it from."

    That's citing BY SPECIFIC NAME.

    "I heard from Assistant Coach Joe Blow that . . . "
    "I heard from the assistant volunteer floor sweeper Pat Patterson that . . . "
    "I heard from Bruno Mars when we were shooting Fireballs in the bar that . . . "
    "I saw a tweet from Ace Reporter, the beat writer for the University of Okoboji Competitive Drinking Team that . . . "
    "I saw a post on ReallyRidiculousRumors.com that said that . . ."
    (the latter two should be accompanied by a link, by the way)

    These sorts of statements are acceptable here, as they allow people to judge for themselves the veracity and reliability of your information.

    If you're going to post it, own it. And owning it includes reporting EXACTLY where you got the "info" from.

    Anything else is rank rumormongering. Period. And doing rumormongering will get you in trouble here.

    I frankly don't care if people like the policy or not. I expect there will be a fair number of people who don't like it.

    Tough.

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  • JackJD
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    Re: Seth Gross

    Originally posted by rabbits64 View Post
    If this was the case I could have put the extended rumors out there and there are plenty of them. I didn’t start this rumor nor did I start the others. In a few months we shall see if Seth stays with his team or transfers. I hope he stays.
    i didn’t understand your first sentence but it doesn’t matter. The rule isn’t going to change. And it doesn’t matter whether one started a rumor or is just passing along “what is being said.” We’ll stick with a more factual discussion on this board, interspersed with lots of opinions including those about athletes given consistently with the attribution rule.

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  • JackJD
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    Re: Seth Gross

    Originally posted by BTownJack View Post
    Mike Daum was a lock to go to Wisconsin about this time last year too..............
    Good example. That was a rumor that was being widely circulated.

    Sometimes the rumor mill is accurate but oftentimes it is flat wrong and has the potential to cause harm. filbert’s attribution rule is a reasonable approach to how this board will or will not deal with rumors about student athletes.

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  • BTownJack
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    Re: Seth Gross

    Originally posted by rabbits64 View Post
    If this was the case I could have put the extended rumors out there and there are plenty of them. I didn’t start this rumor nor did I start the others. In a few months we shall see if Seth stays with his team or transfers. I hope he stays.
    Mike Daum was a lock to go to Wisconsin about this time last year too..............

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  • rabbits64
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    Re: Seth Gross

    Originally posted by JackJD View Post
    Suggestion: start a message board for rumors or, as you write, “what is being said.”

    AmberValley: thanks for your post.
    If this was the case I could have put the extended rumors out there and there are plenty of them. I didn’t start this rumor nor did I start the others. In a few months we shall see if Seth stays with his team or transfers. I hope he stays.
    Last edited by rabbits64; 01-19-2019, 08:11 PM.

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