Cal Poly-Official Game Thread

[filbert]

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Agree with this. This team has talent, but no way 4 or 5 of the best players in SDSU history.

Athletic ability - - - absolutely, I stand by what I've said.

The question is, have the guys shown what Roy Williams calls "want-to?" No. Not yet, anyway. Mark Tetzlaff had "want-to." Jason Sempsrott had "want-to." Chris White had "want-to."

The question is: do these guys have "want-to?"

I've been watching SDSU basketball since the late 1970's, and there is more raw talent and athletic ability on this team than on any team SDSU has ever had.

I don't know if the "want-to" is there, however. That's something that only the guys on the court can answer, one way or another.

[jack power]

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There's a difference between good players and good teams.

[rcjacks]

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Brian Norberg, Chris White, Austin Hansen are three better players. You
can almost throw in Kyle Adams as well.

[minnesotarabbit]

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i'm not saying they are,but how do you know they aren't?

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[jack power]

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Agree with this. This team has talent, but no way 4 or 5 of the best players in SDSU history.

I'm not saying they are,but how do you know they aren't?

[RabbitObsessed]

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We need to be realistic..........4 or 5 of the best players to come out of SDSU?

Agree with this. This team has talent, but no way 4 or 5 of the best players in SDSU history.

[filbert]

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Pretty decent post. I will take exception for singling out Clint's defense,again. Theres Nobody that has played very good defense this year, so i wouldn't single out the player that hasn't even played the last 4 games.

Granted. Back to the entire attitude thing. Playing defense is an attitude, and these guys just don't seem to have it. They need to get meaner--more of an "it's my basketball, give it back to me--NOW!" attitude. All of the players need to adopt more of that attitude.

[minnesotarabbit]

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I think it's entirely possible that four, perhaps five of the best players ever to come through SDSU are on this team: Kai, Cordova, Moss, Garrett Callahan, and maybe Clint Sargent, if he ever figures out how to play defense.

That's what makes the team's current ongoing struggles that much more aggravating.

Yeah, they don't have a 6'10" horse of a post player. Most teams don't. They have, on paper, the surrounding cast, however.

It's past time these guys stopped letting things happen to them on the court, and started making things happen for them instead.

It's an attitude adjustment. The talent is there to be a reasonably successful low-mid-major team. The attitude isn't there, yet.

My proof is that they can do it at home--they can beat an athletically superior Oakland team in Frost--but lose to athletically inferior teams like UMKC on the road.

That's attitude, not ability.

But also, I try to remember that they're STILL a very young team. Attitude comes with experience.

We need to be realistic..........4 or 5 of the best players to come out of SDSU? Come on, we're 0-16 in conference road games and just lost to one of the worst home teams in the country. That being said, the tourney is in SF and who knows what could happen.

And why is it after every game, we hear the same thing.......how things will be different next game, but they never are. Not negative, but being realistic.

[jack power]

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I think it's entirely possible that four, perhaps five of the best players ever to come through SDSU are on this team: Kai, Cordova, Moss, Garrett Callahan, and maybe Clint Sargent, if he ever figures out how to play defense.

That's what makes the team's current ongoing struggles that much more aggravating.

Yeah, they don't have a 6'10" horse of a post player. Most teams don't. They have, on paper, the surrounding cast, however.

It's past time these guys stopped letting things happen to them on the court, and started making things happen for them instead.

It's an attitude adjustment. The talent is there to be a reasonably successful low-mid-major team. The attitude isn't there, yet.

My proof is that they can do it at home--they can beat an athletically superior Oakland team in Frost--but lose to athletically inferior teams like UMKC on the road.

That's attitude, not ability.

But also, I try to remember that they're STILL a very young team. Attitude comes with experience.

Pretty decent post. I will take exception for singling out Clint's defense,again. Theres Nobody that has played very good defense this year, so i wouldn't single out the player that hasn't even played the last 4 games.

[JacksFroshFan]

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Hold on there fella.

I'm not saying that's what needs to happen to get Kai to play a bit more consistently (personally I think he has shown a ton of toughness at times this year).

BUT... Isn't it the coaches job to get his players to perform? If you have a player as talented as Kai and he isn't performing the way you want him to, shouldn't you try to motivate him? And if the first method of motivation doesn't work, try a different method? And if that doesn't work, try a third?

The reality is that not everyone responds well to yelling and foot stomping (again, not saying that's what is going on here), and that goes for whether you are an all conference athlete or a janitor. If what you are doing isn't working, it doesn't always mean someone else needs to change...

Very good perspective and well said.

[JacksFroshFan]

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I think it's entirely possible that four, perhaps five of the best players ever to come through SDSU are on this team: Kai, Cordova, Moss, Garrett Callahan, and maybe Clint Sargent, if he ever figures out how to play defense.

That's what makes the team's current ongoing struggles that much more aggravating.

Yeah, they don't have a 6'10" horse of a post player. Most teams don't. They have, on paper, the surrounding cast, however.

It's past time these guys stopped letting things happen to them on the court, and started making things happen for them instead.

It's an attitude adjustment. The talent is there to be a reasonably successful low-mid-major team. The attitude isn't there, yet.

My proof is that they can do it at home--they can beat an athletically superior Oakland team in Frost--but lose to athletically inferior teams like UMKC on the road.

That's attitude, not ability.

But also, I try to remember that they're STILL a very young team. Attitude comes with experience.

When did Sargent become the poor defender of the team? I don't think the stats have gotten much better since he's been out have they? That's the second time you've went out of your way to reference it.

I don't know that we have anyone on the team that is an above average defender, at least not consistently.

[SF_Rabbit_Fan]

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You're right, it can't be Kai's fault. Maybe Nagy could go out and hold his hand, bring him in the office and stroke his ego. What more can anyone do?

Hold on there fella.

I'm not saying that's what needs to happen to get Kai to play a bit more consistently (personally I think he has shown a ton of toughness at times this year).

BUT... Isn't it the coaches job to get his players to perform? If you have a player as talented as Kai and he isn't performing the way you want him to, shouldn't you try to motivate him? And if the first method of motivation doesn't work, try a different method? And if that doesn't work, try a third?

The reality is that not everyone responds well to yelling and foot stomping (again, not saying that's what is going on here), and that goes for whether you are an all conference athlete or a janitor. If what you are doing isn't working, it doesn't always mean someone else needs to change...

[filbert]

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I think it's entirely possible that four, perhaps five of the best players ever to come through SDSU are on this team: Kai, Cordova, Moss, Garrett Callahan, and maybe Clint Sargent, if he ever figures out how to play defense.

That's what makes the team's current ongoing struggles that much more aggravating.

Yeah, they don't have a 6'10" horse of a post player. Most teams don't. They have, on paper, the surrounding cast, however.

It's past time these guys stopped letting things happen to them on the court, and started making things happen for them instead.

It's an attitude adjustment. The talent is there to be a reasonably successful low-mid-major team. The attitude isn't there, yet.

My proof is that they can do it at home--they can beat an athletically superior Oakland team in Frost--but lose to athletically inferior teams like UMKC on the road.

That's attitude, not ability.

But also, I try to remember that they're STILL a very young team. Attitude comes with experience.

[1stRowFANatic]

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I am leaving this thread with a smile on my face. Thanks

[SturgisJeff]

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You're right, it can't be Kai's fault. Maybe Nagy could go out and hold his hand, bring him in the office and stroke his ego. What more can anyone do?