Western Illinois at Macomb

[filbert]

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Yeah . . . I don't think we need to keep being reminded of this game.

Y'all go create a beer thread in the Lounge section or something, cause this here watering hole is closing down . . .

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[Jacks#1Fan]

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Thread drift alert! Keep checking to find out if we have a new informative post on this thread (grumble, grumble...ok so I'm not a beer drinker).

[RabbitinTea]

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Shiner Bock is sold in Minneapolis and my son brought in a box of 12 for the Oakland U and Superbowl weekend.

I'll have to grab some next time I'm in the cities. Didn't know it was available. Thanks for the info!

[NoVaJack]

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I'll be watching from Texas tonight so I got a bit of Shiner Bock at your advice to enjoy during the game.

Shiner Bock appears to be the new Coors. You can't it everywhere, so it must be special!!
Just kidding, it's a good brewski

[West-River_Jack]

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I'll be watching from Texas tonight so I got a bit of Shiner Bock at your advice to enjoy during the game.

[JackJD]

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Shiner Bock is sold in Minneapolis and my son brought in a box of 12 for the Oakland U and Superbowl weekend.

[jackmd]

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Was out of town and catching up on this thread. Noticed you mentioned Shiner Bock...Great Choice! Did you bring it back or find another way to get it? I looked one time and they actually ship as far as Omaha to a couple grocery stores and bars. If there's a way to get some in SD, let me know!

They sold Shiner Bock in Rochester, MN back in 2005 and 2006. I'm not sure if they still get it or not. I haven't been back to Rochester in 2 1/2 years. Agreed, excellent beer.

[RabbitinTea]

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Just opened my first Shiner Bock from Shiner, TX and there's 11 more cold ones in the box. If you can find your way here, I'll pour one.

WNAX coming in loud and clear.

Was out of town and catching up on this thread. Noticed you mentioned Shiner Bock...Great Choice! Did you bring it back or find another way to get it? I looked one time and they actually ship as far as Omaha to a couple grocery stores and bars. If there's a way to get some in SD, let me know!

[Jacks99]

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I think what 99 means is that the guys tend to seize up at the end of games. Nagy isn't telling them to back off, the guys just seem to do it accidently on their own.

I believe he's said that much.

[rabidrabbit]

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Heres how we stack up with the Summit regarding starters:

1. NDSU SR-4 SO-1
2. OU SR-3 JR-1 FR-1
3. Oakland SR-1 JR-1 SO-2 FR-1
4. S. Utah SR-3 JR-1 FR-1
5. IUPUI SR-1 JR-2 SO-2
6. Centenary SR-2 JR-2 SO-1
7. IPFW SR-1 JR-1 SO-2 FR-1
8. SDSU JR-2 SO-3
9. W Illinois SR-1 JR-2 SO-1 FR-1
10. UMKC SO-2 FR-3

Top teams this year are senior laden, and lower level teams are more underclassmen. I like our situation for next year, and they have grown a lot this year.

[Just in the crowd]

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Heres how we stack up with the Summit regarding starters:

1. NDSU SR-4 SO-1
2. OU SR-3 JR-1 FR-1
3. Oakland SR-1 JR-1 SO-2 FR-1
4. S. Utah SR-3 JR-1 FR-1
5. IUPUI SR-1 JR-2 SO-2
6. Centenary SR-2 JR-2 SO-1
7. IPFW SR-1 JR-1 SO-2 FR-1
8. SDSU JR-2 SO-3
9. W Illinois SR-1 JR-2 SO-1 FR-1
10. UMKC SO-2 FR-3

[JimmyJack]

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Here's my $0.02: Coaches get too much credit when a team wins and gets too much blame when a team loses.

No doubt. But personally having watched this transition unfold, I'm prepared to give Coach Nagy a ton of credit for getting this thing turned around and heading in the right direction.

People forget that the cupboard was pretty bare to begin with when the transition started (we had just lost a whole bunch of seniors, including a couple of sixth-year guys). Then the bad things started to happen. Now, just a couple of years later, he's got us competing night-in and night-out in the Summit. Most everybody agrees we're close. Can there be any doubt that it's Coach Nagy who has gotten us there? I think he deserves a lot of credit for adjusting and working this program into shape through some pretty dark moments.

Is it frustrating at times? Of course it is. But that shouldn't overshadow the progress that is being made and I want Coach Nagy to get his fair share of the credit.

[RabbitObsessed]

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Here's my $0.02: Coaches get too much credit when a team wins and gets too much blame when a team loses.

Everyone says that the guys have improved from last year and while I didn't watch them play last year, that makes a lot of sense. They have improved even from before break. They are much better now than they were at the beginning of the season, and since most of the studs are Jr's and So's it makes sense that they would be even better next year.

[SUPERBUNNY]

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This team has made great strides so far this year and that doesn't always come through in the record. There is a lot of season left and like I said earlier, I think we learn more about these kids in the next five games then we have all season long.

Obviously, not everyone is going to agree which is fine. IMO the coaching staff should get a tip of the hat for what they have accomplished. There has been a marked improvement on the court this year. Coach Klinkefus is getting the recruits that we need to get. Some people talk about adjusting to D-1 or changing styles of recruiting, etc. I don't know about all that stuff but it sure seems like we are on the right path. We all grow as a result of the experiences we are subjected to you and my assesment is that Coach Nagy has grown as a coach as well. If the staff could be given a two-year contract as a vote of confidence it would be my vote to do so but that isn't a possibility.

It would be a real shame if the next AD or Dr. Chicoine didn't give Nagy and the staff the opportunity to see this thing all the way through. We would almost certainly lose recruits and set the program back another few years. One of the biggest strengths of our Athletic Department is the longevity of the people on staff. It just works and I hope that trand continued when we look for the next AD and when it comes to decisions on all personell changes. To go away from that would be to turn away from what has been a succesful formula not just through transition but for decades.

Let's just all come out and support this team and help them get the last few wins they need to get into the tournament and make all of this conjecture a moot point!

One thing we all agree on is GB, GB, GJ!

SUPERBUNNY

[zooropa]

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And Nagy has obviously figured out recruiting.

He's got recruiting and playing style in sync, and that's great. The world is full of great coaches that can't recruit, and great recruiters that can't coach. You can recruit mid 6 footers that can shoot the lights out for days in the upper midwest, and by giving them a program where they can really shine (instead of playing back-burner to one-and-dones or bigs), you've made the program attractive to them.

By developing a system that doesn't rely on individual players having exceptional athletic ability, but hard workers that can think on their feet, Nagy's perhaps unconsciously imitating AJ who's done great things with a slew of talent that no one else was all that interested in.

Also, by staffing the team with a bunch of players in the 6'-4 to 6'-6 range that are flexible, you can create a number of different looks on offense. Heck, Dale Moss was running the point for a while against Oakland.

I'm very bullish on Nagy & the Jacks. His record at the D-2 level showed Nagy is a complete coach, and I think he's finally gotten 'comfortable' with where he needs to be as a coach and a recruiter at the D-1 level.

Give Nagy a year or two, and IMO he'll be in contention for the conference title almost every year.