Basketball Personnel Discussion (was Cam Hornby)

[joeboo22]

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Who is on scholarship?? I here that we have 5 to give out but then I here that we don't have any to give out for the 2 sophomores from madison that have been rumored to verbally commit to sdsu?? I know Yackley is a walk-on and Klienjon is a senior, Horby and another guy left and possibly 1 more. I look at Nagy and see the same problem as Black Hills State coach has (Sather) if you don't have the talent nor the expierence even Roy Williams or Coach K can't win.

[Rabbitlivinginverm]

Ben Beran

What's Big Ben Beran up to these days? Any chance he could be one Nagy has been talking to? We sure could use his experience and size.

[jackmd]

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From my perspective other than lacking some size, the overall skill level is good.  What I think we are lacking is some toughness from some of the players and this has been echoed by the staff.  Dont be surprised to see 2-3 JC's sign in the spring.  The staff feels we need to get mentally tougher.

This is as optimistic as anyone should be. If we can get a couple of decent guys with decent size and Callahan develops as a ball handler, Cadwell is free to do what he does which is score. (big ifs)

Our defense has to improve or scoring won't matter. I think Bassett has plenty of upside and Williams is talented, have to keep their attitudes up as losing stinks especially for young guys who had success at the previous level.

A lot of work to do, that is for sure.

[SDSUJack3031]

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Not a chance Beran is coming back. 100%.

I agree with the JCs a little bit too. It would only take one year of having an above .500 season while beating a couple of good teams (such as a team from a major conference) to get recruits to take a better look at SDSU and for the guys to build confidence. Winners win and losers lose. It's the same thing as a high school program. Kids just know how to win because they've been around it. We just need to somehow gain some momentum and build some confidence. And of course keep some guys around to help build on that....and if we did get that momentum and get some confidence...guys won't want to leave. (Of course there are other reasons why people have left...but if you win...they will most likely stay.)

[38_Jack]

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I talked to Ben Beran personally and he told me that a load lifted off him when he decided not to play anymore. It was a personal decision with nothing against basketball. He did not tell me that but he said nothing bad about the program.

[croc_hunta]

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The deals with the football players and the baseball player fell through...i was told that one of his staff members is going to be watching some intramural games. He said there were some good players last year besides troy and it is possible that there is a player out there

[rcjacks]

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The deals with the football players and the baseball player fell through...i was told that one of his staff members is going to be watching some intramural games.  He said there were some good players last year besides troy and it is possible that there is a player out there

Give me a break....there is no way an assistant coach will be scouting the intramural leagues. There is no reason to spew misinformation on here.

[UWMandSDSU]

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[quote author=croc_hunta link=1165298765/75#80 date=1165890554]The deals with the football players and the baseball player fell through...i was told that one of his staff members is going to be watching some intramural games.  He said there were some good players last year besides troy and it is possible that there is a player out there

Give me a break....there is no way an assistant coach will be scouting the intramural leagues.  There is no reason to spew misinformation on here.[/quote]

I agree rcjacks. If you are right croc then I would have to question the coaching staff. Please we are Div I school, if we have to resort to intramural players I would be dissapointed.

[SDSUJack3031]

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I wouldn't look at it as them scouting the intramurals, but as them just taking a quick glance to see if anyone is around. You can't just overlook kids just because they're playing intramurals. Worst comes worst you have the kid come work out and he sucks but taking a look isn't the worst thing. Plus it's right in your court. Yes..I am a student that is in intramurals and I really can't think of anyone who would make a difference with the team, but I could think of a couple of kids that could add depth for maybe practice purposes. I wouldn't rag on the coaches, they're just trying to find some people. And plus, (sarcasticly)...the kids won't transfer away right?

[UWMandSDSU]

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I wouldn't look at it as them scouting the intramurals, but as them just taking a quick glance to see if anyone is around. You can't just overlook kids just because they're playing intramurals. Worst comes worst you have the kid come work out and he sucks but taking a look isn't the worst thing. Plus it's right in your court. Yes..I am a student that is in intramurals and I really can't think of anyone who would make a difference with the team, but I could think of a couple of kids that could add depth for maybe practice purposes. I wouldn't rag on the coaches, they're just trying to find some people. And plus, (sarcasticly)...the kids won't transfer away right?

Ok, see your point. But I will just have to say we will just have to "agree to disagree" on this one.

[Jacks02]

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Isn't that sort of how Heien made the team?

[Haldersham]

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The story I heard on Heien was Nagy located him in the librairy studying, but no doubt there was a network of people who told the coaching staff that Heien  had transferred to SDSU. People from DAC schools and GPAC, if and when they transfer to SDSU for academic reasons probably dont make a lot of fuzz about their presences. They may not even approach the coaching staff about walking on.

I think the thing to remember about talented athletes is that participating and holding on to a scholarship requires a great amount of time and if you came for academic reasons, its becomes a real big decision. Do you want to be in Frost practicing four to five hours a day or would you rather be in the libraiy studying?

I see nothing wrong about watching intramurals. A grad assistant probably would get that job if indeed there is thought about looking for walkons.  I sure there are a few who may come to Nagy now that apparently there is a need for walkons? Nothing offical yet so no reason to get excited.

[MilwaukeeJacksAlum]

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So Nagy's looking to intramural players because aside from the fact that sounds crazy, there would be no problem with making sure the player is eligible on a grade front (because all non-athletes are getting straigh A's and would automatically be eligible for grades), no problem with the fact that an intramural player hasn't cleared the NCAA clearing house (every athlete has to be cleared by the NCAA in order to participate for any sport), no problem with the fact that the intramural player may have not played an organized game of basketball for years (intramurals is not organized), and no problem that the intramural player would have no idea about the plays SDSU runs so Nagy would have to spend an inordinant amount of time teaching him the plays. Also, I'm sure that intramural player would be in good enough shape to make it through 1/4 of a practice, let alone an entire week of practices or even the remainder of the season. None of that makes the statement about scouting intramural players seem implausible.

[Haldersham]

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So Nagy's looking to intramural players because aside from the fact that sounds crazy, there would be no problem with making sure the player is eligible on a grade front (because all non-athletes are getting straigh A's and would automatically be eligible for grades), no problem with the fact that an intramural player hasn't cleared the NCAA clearing house (every athlete has to be cleared by the NCAA in order to participate for any sport), no problem with the fact that the intramural player may have not played an organized game of basketball for years (intramurals is not organized), and no problem that the intramural player would have no idea about the plays SDSU runs so Nagy would have to spend an inordinant amount of time teaching him the plays.  Also, I'm sure that intramural player would be in good enough shape to make it through 1/4 of a practice, let alone an entire week of practices or even the remainder of the season.  None of that makes the statement about scouting intramural players seem implausible.

++++++++++ Amen++++++++++++++++++ I don't think the coach is looking either, but those no doubt would be the issues a intramural guy would face. Also worthy of mention is that Heien had spent two years playing for Mount Marty before transferring to SDSU. For that reason, I made reference to the DAC and GPAC.

[SF_Rabbit_Fan]

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This has little to do with SDSU's situation or percieved situation, but didn't Michigan have an intrumural player walk on the year before the Fab Five came to campus. I think he may have even been all Big Ten. After the Fab Five came to town, there was a split on the team between the vets and the newbies, I think he transferred to Tulane or Western Michigan or something like that. The funny thing was his intramural team name. It was "(his name) and the seven dwarfs."