GDT: Jacks vs. Yotes - SLT (M) Championship

[filbert]

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It was unusual that he didn’t play at all. We at least have a clue. If it’s bunions, it got to be painful.

Having had bunion surgery on both feet . . . they can be excruciatingly painful.

[Nidaros]

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It was unusual that he didn’t play at all. We at least have a clue. If it’s bunions, it got to be painful.

[MontanaRabbit]

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I overheard someone sitting behind me at the SL tourney that Chris has bunions on his foot/feet that will likely require surgery once the season is over. This person didn't qualify where this information came from but it is sounding more credible as time goes on.

It'd make sense. Howell missed time early in the year with bunion problems. Tyler said on the radio several times he'd wear his shoes from last year because they felt better on his feet.


So is Howell done or will he be back next year, anyone know?

[BTownJack]

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I have also heard this as well but didn’t know if it was true since no one has talked about it at all.

I overheard someone sitting behind me at the SL tourney that Chris has bunions on his foot/feet that will likely require surgery once the season is over. This person didn't qualify where this information came from but it is sounding more credible as time goes on.

[Carolina010]

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I have heard he has chronic foot problems that don’t allow him to play or practice. He’s in too much pain when he does so. I’ve also heard this he been known in the program for some time, and TJ has elected to let him keep his scholarship even though he cannnot play. From what I saw on Monday, I’m inclined to believe he’s in pain when he plays. He seems to be very well liked. Everyone seems quite happy when he hit that 3 Monday.

I have also heard this as well but didn’t know if it was true since no one has talked about it at all.

[CappinHard]

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I have heard he has chronic foot problems that don’t allow him to play or practice. He’s in too much pain when he does so. I’ve also heard this he been known in the program for some time, and TJ has elected to let him keep his scholarship even though he cannnot play. From what I saw on Monday, I’m inclined to believe he’s in pain when he plays. He seems to be very well liked. Everyone seems quite happy when he hit that 3 Monday.

This would make a lot of sense and contribute to the weight gain too. Not only the physical limitation, but the mental aspect of knowing that he's not going to be playing a huge amount of minutes.

[JackAttack44]

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He looked really tight when he was running. With the limited minutes he has gotten, even in blowouts, I've wondered if he might have a chronic injury issue.

I have heard he has chronic foot problems that don’t allow him to play or practice. He’s in too much pain when he does so. I’ve also heard this he been known in the program for some time, and TJ has elected to let him keep his scholarship even though he cannnot play. From what I saw on Monday, I’m inclined to believe he’s in pain when he plays. He seems to be very well liked. Everyone seems quite happy when he hit that 3 Monday.

[bigticket1]

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Our group thought the same thing about Howell. He looked like a completely different person this year than last. Last year he seems thinner but more muscle. This year when he got in Monday night he looked like the pulled him from the stand and gave him a jersey.

He looked really tight when he was running. With the limited minutes he has gotten, even in blowouts, I've wondered if he might have a chronic injury issue.

[UWMandSDSU]

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Our group thought the same thing about Howell. He looked like a completely different person this year than last. Last year he seems thinner but more muscle. This year when he got in Monday night he looked like the pulled him from the stand and gave him a jersey.

Howell in post championship interview with Tyler on the radio mentioned he was close to graduating. Possibly a transfer for him?

[Carolina010]

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So the picture of #3 in this seems slimmer then the #3 that played in the Blow out Semifinal win. Couple that with the Comment From DJJ in one of the recent interviews of TJ believing in everybody "even when a teammate didn't pass a fitness test" leads me to postulate if there's a correlation between what I think I see and the amount of playing time.

Our group thought the same thing about Howell. He looked like a completely different person this year than last. Last year he seems thinner but more muscle. This year when he got in Monday night he looked like the pulled him from the stand and gave him a jersey.

[slosho]

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https://twitter.com/ryan_knudson28/s...74024402718722

So the picture of #3 in this seems slimmer then the #3 that played in the Blow out Semifinal win. Couple that with the Comment From DJJ in one of the recent interviews of TJ believing in everybody "even when a teammate didn't pass a fitness test" leads me to postulate if there's a correlation between what I think I see and the amount of playing time.

[Crashola]

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Good points. People like winners and well, we've been winning against USD more than they have.

Also, to take things a little further, I think SDSU resonates more with people in South Dakota. It's the ag college and a large percentage of the state is driven by agriculture. Many of the city folks in South Dakota have roots that go back to small towns and agriculture.

I think you are right that it is a combination of these things. I would be interested to know how many State and U alumni reside in South Dakota. And for people with no connection to the schools, I think a much larger majority of the state's college sports fans connect with SDSU for the reasons you stated.

And definitely a culture problem in Vermillion. I spent three years there in law school and, unless SDSU was in town, you could always count on the students to wander in late and leave early.

[Nidaros]

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There has been a disparity between fans for a long time, even long before the Dakota Dome, when USD played in ROTC Gym or something like that. There were fist fights to keep SDSU fans away from the game, that is how inferior they have been. I think they were worse then.

Although 1965 in Brookings, I witnessed SDSU students throwing apple cores at the USD team standing in a timeout huddle.That was not our proudest moment since Jim Iverson had been axed earlier in the season and Jim Marking took over. We stunk that year, two years after winning the NC. I do recall we won that game. The one USD player picked up a core and threw up in SDSU reserve section which was right behind the table where score officals sat. I am describing how things were done at the barn. There has always been this attempt to equalize or exert the superiority of USD, which is not very geniune and they often fall short as they did in this year's SL tourney. Any one for a Joose?

I might explain, that the Letterman Club used to use the concessions to finance their scholarships and often you would see football letter winners carting around a big wooden box of apples and one would cart the box and the other would throw the apples to the fans waving for them. His job was also to catch the dimes and quarters thrown down to the apple seller. Thank goodness we have progressed from those days. Also students would often smuggle half pints into the game, and they had only one or two old cops whose job it was to catch the wrong doingers with the half pints. Interesting.

[Nidaros]

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Good points. People like winners and well, we've been winning against USD more than they have.

Also, to take things a little further, I think SDSU resonates more with people in South Dakota. It's the ag college and a large percentage of the state is driven by agriculture. Many of the city folks in South Dakota have roots that go back to small towns and agriculture.

There has been a disparity between fans for a long time, long before the Dakota Dome, when USD played in ROTC Gym or something like that. There were fist fights to keep SDSU fans away from the game, that is how inferior they have been. I think they were worse then.

In 1965 in Brookings, I witnessed SDSU students throwing apple cores at the USD team standing in a timeout huddle.That was not our proudest moment since Jim Iverson had been axed earlier in the season and Jim Marking took over. We stunk that year, two years after winning the NC. I do recall we won that game. The one USD player picked up a core and threw up in SDSU reserve section which was right behind the table where score officals sat. I dont blame this guy as they did not have the technical foul rule for throwing things back in 1965. I am describing how things were done at the barn. There has always been this attempt to equalize or exert the superiority of USD, which is not very geniune and they often fall short as they did in this year's SL tourney. Any one for a Joose?

[MontanaRabbit]

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The USD fans sitting right in front of us this year were good people (although they were wearing that hideous red).

One thing to remember (old-timers can fact-check me on this) is that USD's crowds at games playing SDSU in Sioux Falls during the D-II days (NCC Holiday, etc.) were never as big as SDSU's. Never. It was always at most 60-40 if I recall correctly.

SDSU has a larger enrollment than USD, and a *much* larger undergraduate enrollment. Since most people form their college affiliations based on where they attended as an undergraduate, this means that SDSU's actual active fan base is bigger.

From the SDBOR 2018 Factbook, Fall headcount enrollment was 12,527 for SDSU and 10,261 for USD; on-campus headcount was 10,198 SDSU, 7,033 USD; graduate ("Graduate, First Professional & GR non-degree-seeking") total enrollment was 1,791 SDSU, 2,613 USD, and more of USD's graduate students are (I speculate) off-campus (the med school's footprint in Sioux Falls for instance).

So smaller total enrollment combined with larger graduate enrollment means fewer undergraduates on campus, and fewer graduates each year out in the world and potential rabid fans.

Add that to a consideration of the levels of athletic success (post-season appearances/performances) of SDSU and USD football (favors SDSU), men's basketball (favors SDSU), women's basketball (favoring SDSU) means that casual fans with no other association to either institution will, all things being equal, tend to gravitate more to SDSU than to USD. People like successful programs, and the more success, the more people like them. I give you as an extreme example the NDSU football following.

So, in summary, there's both a structural reason (disparity in number of undergrads) and a recent-athletic-success reason why there aren't as many USD fans as SDSU fans. Both of those could of course change in the future but for now it is what it is.

Good points. People like winners and well, we've been winning against USD more than they have.

Also, to take things a little further, I think SDSU resonates more with people in South Dakota. It's the ag college and a large percentage of the state is driven by agriculture. Many of the city folks in South Dakota have roots that go back to small towns and agriculture.