2016 Recruits

[Kemo]

Re: 2016 Recruits

So if the same injury waiver rules apply to a JUCO season as with the NCAA regulations, he could have three seasons of eligibility with the Jacks ?

I'd assume so being that the NJCAA is affiliated with the NCAA, but I'm not 100% on how it would work with an injury while in the JuCo ranks. I know there are redshirts in JuCo so it seems logical that there would be medical redshirts.

Of course, this is assuming that he was injured, though it seems likely even though I couldn't find anything to verify it.

[bigticket1]

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Looks like we just got a commitment from Chris Howell, a 6'5" SF out of Butler Community College (KS) according to Mark Miller.

Looks like he only played 1 game last year as a sophomore before, what I assume, must have been an injury.

Howell's stats as a freshman according to NJCAA.org were as follows: 11.8 PTS/G, 56.7 FG%, 26.7 3PT%, 73.2 FT%, 6.8 RPG, 2.2 APG

So if the same injury waiver rules apply to a JUCO season as with the NCAA regulations, he could have three seasons of eligibility with the Jacks ?

[Kemo]

Re: 2016 Recruits

Looks like we just got a commitment from Chris Howell, a 6'5" SF out of Butler Community College (KS) according to Mark Miller.

Looks like he only played 1 game last year as a sophomore before, what I assume, must have been an injury.

Howell's stats as a freshman according to NJCAA.org were as follows: 11.8 PTS/G, 56.7 FG%, 26.7 3PT%, 73.2 FT%, 6.8 RPG, 2.2 APG

[jacks1]

Re: 2016 Recruits

Great article. A good get-to-know-you with all of the new guys (other than Sarich, I guess). I was particularly interested in the section on Orris. Seems like he might be more than just added depth at the guard position.

Agreed. I think he could very well start. TJ isn't going to bring in a grad transfer for 1 year with the intention of burying him on the bench for depth only. I'm gonna head over to the Future Rosters thread and predict my sure to be wrong starting line-up. Is it basketball season yet?

[JackrabbitGuy]

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For several reasons it will be a fun year to get out to watch the Jacks early in the season. New coach, new staff, new players, new style of play, fresh start for existing players.
Let's just hope that a lot if wins come with it, and this program will not miss a beat.

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[RabbitObsessed]

Re: 2016 Recruits

http://www.argusleader.com/story/spo...sdsu/84444836/
necessary if the Jacks want to win in Otzelberger’s first season. And the coaching change made this a unique situation – don't expect the Jacks to suddenly become the Summit League’s Transfer U., and abandon their investment in high school recruits (as the early offer to Trevor Hanson illustrates).

Great article. A good get-to-know-you with all of the new guys (other than Sarich, I guess). I was particularly interested in the section on Orris. Seems like he might be more than just added depth at the guard position.

[OldHare]

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http://www.argusleader.com/story/spo...sdsu/84444836/
necessary if the Jacks want to win in Otzelberger’s first season. And the coaching change made this a unique situation – don't expect the Jacks to suddenly become the Summit League’s Transfer U., and abandon their investment in high school recruits (as the early offer to Trevor Hanson illustrates).

[SUPERBUNNY]

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So let me give this dead horse one more wallup!

I agree with a few of you that some years Nagy didn't use as much depth. Most of those it simply wasn't there. When he had it he used it and the results spoke for themselves.

That era is closed and a new one has begun. Going to be another fun ride!

SUPERBUNNY

[SF_Rabbit_Fan]

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The last 5 years the Jacks averaged 24 wins, made the NCAA tourney 3 times,and also had a NIT win. I was ok with Nagy's use of players. If TJ can match those results i don't care if he only plays with 4.

Like I said, the last 5 years have been amazing.

A fan can be happy with the stats you listed while being unhappy with Coach Nagy's player rotations. Or use of timeouts. Or courtside demeanor.

Coach Nagy had shortcomings, like every coach ever. I'm sure I will be unhappy/unsatisfied with some aspects of TJ's program as well.

[jack power]

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The last 5 years the Jacks averaged 24 wins, made the NCAA tourney 3 times,and also had a NIT win. I was ok with Nagy's use of players. If TJ can match those results i don't care if he only plays with 4.

[SF_Rabbit_Fan]

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Last year I agree, but I think if you look back at every (DI) year prior we had a pretty short bench. Last year was the first time since the DII days that Nagy used some depth if I recall correctly.

Adjusted your post to reflect my sentiment. IMO, there have been several years that our depth has been better than playing time reflected. Multiple players nursing injuries during the middle of the season forced Nagy to use depth this year when in the past he wouldn't have. I think the fact that were losing so many key players contributed as well (Parks, Marshall, Bittle, Moffitt). If Nagy was going to be around next year, King needed some experience - if one of those 4 had another year of eligibility I don't think King would have played nearly as much. His playing time fell off dramatically during the critical second half of the season - after he had proven his ability to contribute.

This is just my layman's opinion. Obviously the results the last 5 years have been amazing. Its ancient history now. Onward with TJ!

[MontanaRabbit]

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Nagy used his bench a lot the last couple years.

It was very common to use 9 or 10 players in a game.

SUPERBUNNY

Last year I agree, but I think if you look back at every (DI) year prior we had a pretty short bench. Last year was the first time since the DII days that Nagy actually had some depth if I recall correctly.

[SUPERBUNNY]

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Has their been any indication whether this coach will go deeper into his bench than Nagy often did?

IMHO that would be hard to do. Nagy used his bench a lot the last couple years. Sometimes I thought too much. There were a number of games when there was five minutes left and we had 3 subs on the floor not counting Daum who needs to be on the floor.

Starters:
Deondre Park
George Marshall
Jake Bittle
Reed Tellinghuisen
Ian Thiessen

Subs:
Mike Daum
Keaton Moffitt
Connor Devine
Lane Severyn
Tevin King
Cory Jacobsen

It was very common to use 9 or 10 players in a game. That's pretty good use of the bench. If Nagy had depth he liked to use it. My guess is most coaches would but we will have to wait and see with TJ.
Personally, I'm really excited for next year but I am every year so, no news there.

SUPERBUNNY

[bigticket1]

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Has their been any indication whether this coach will go deeper into his bench than Nagy often did?

We have no track record to go by since he has no head coaching experience to refer to. At this point he probably doesn't know himself since he hasn't worked with any of the players. By the time the conference season rolls around, he will probably have a 7 or 8 player rotation like most coaches do.

[Nidaros]

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Coach Otz has indicated that he'll play more of a running game. I think he'll have to go deeper into the bench.

In fairness to Coach Nagy, during the transition period he had no one to go to, but practice players, but this got better and towards the end, and if not for injuries he did go deep as he could go. Coach Otz has something to work with and thank goodness we only go through the transition period once. I hoping all will go well this season. Just ordered my BB tickets.