GDT: UNI Panthers, Part Deux (Playoff Edition)

[jakejc795]

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I am not sure where to put this but NDSU has 4200 unsold tickets for the playoff game

Hopefully this begins a string of decades of consecutive unsold playoff tickets -- because they never make the playoffs again.

[Nidaros]

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And we had 15000 last week.

SDSU does not have 7 natty in trophy case. We got the little brown jug or was that surrendered after the USD game?

[mitchellrabbit]

Re: GDT: UNI Panthers, Part Deux (Playoff Edition)

I am not sure where to put this but NDSU has 4200 unsold tickets for the playoff game

And we had 15000 last week.

[Nidaros]

Re: GDT: UNI Panthers, Part Deux (Playoff Edition)

I am not sure where to put this but NDSU has 4200 unsold tickets for the playoff game

[NWHSUandSDSU]

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I didn’t watch the game but UNI only had 114 yards of offense (0 rushing). That to me looks like total domination by JMU and although the score wasn’t completely lopsided UNI really had no chance.

They had 59 total yards until they picked up some yards in their last drive when game was over, also the last drive was the only time they crossed the fifty yard line.

[jakejc795]

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I didn’t watch the game but UNI only had 114 yards of offense (0 rushing). That to me looks like total domination by JMU and although the score wasn’t completely lopsided UNI really had no chance.

I'd say the recipe for defeating the Panthers is forcing McElvain to pass. As for their rushing total, it wasn't helped by him taking hefty lost yards on sacks. In the last two games, he lost nearly 80 yards rushing

[jakejc795]

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UNI graduates 1 OL

Gets a starting LT back
Gets 2 starting TEs (an All American) back
Gets 3 WR back from injury (2 starters)
GetS 4 RB back

In defense we played about half the season - inuding playoffs - without our best LB who will be back next year.

We lose like 2, maybe 3, total guys of value on offense and like 2 on defense.

IIRC all but 1 player (who missed the playoffs) 2 deep on defense is back IIRC and I think all but 1 DB is back.


Farley got this team to 10 wins playing a sophomore linebacker and a 3rd string center at tight end while missing 4 running backs and half the WR group.

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I was referring to Lueck and JS-B on OL, and I'll leave the debate about whether Lawrence, Allen, Graham, Applegate, James, and Thomas are quality players to folks who care for UNI.

[uniftw]

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I'm also not sold on NDSU having inordinately greater RB, DL, WR, or LB depth compared to Jacks. Rather, the Jacks were snakebit with concurrent timing of RB injuries and OL ineffectiveness at crucial junctures this season.

As for JMU, it seemed their OL and UNI's ineffectiveness passing separated yesterday's teams. If I were a UNI fan, I would be incredibly concerned with McElvain's propensity to lose yardage when scrambling, which could be exacerbated next season with some of their OL graduating. I believe JMU also stands to lose multiple OL starters and a handful of FBS transfers including their QB.

UNI graduates 1 OL

Gets a starting LT back
Gets 2 starting TEs (an All American) back
Gets 3 WR back from injury (2 starters)
GetS 4 RB back

In defense we played about half the season - inuding playoffs - without our best LB who will be back next year.

We lose like 2, maybe 3, total guys of value on offense and like 2 on defense.

IIRC all but 1 player (who missed the playoffs) 2 deep on defense is back IIRC and I think all but 1 DB is back.


Farley got this team to 10 wins playing a sophomore linebacker and a 3rd string center at tight end while missing 4 running backs and half the WR group.

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[MontanaRabbit]

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Pretty disappointing to see UNI hang with JMU, even with our injuries we could have competed very well with JMU.

I didn’t watch the game but UNI only had 114 yards of offense (0 rushing). That to me looks like total domination by JMU and although the score wasn’t completely lopsided UNI really had no chance.

[jakejc795]

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I’ll be that guy. NDSU’s backup QB would have started this year for SDSU. He was an Iowa St transfer that started some games for them. And I’m guessing they would have found a RB. Yes, it would have hurt them but they have way more depth.

If I were a betting man, I'd say the Jacks win that game against Bison if Lance were the QB who had been injured instead of Gibbs, notwithstanding Noland being more experienced than Heide, but hey, I have a considerable "yellow & blue bias"

[jakejc795]

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You missed the point, but whatever. Injuries that SDSU had would have cost NDSU as well even when everyone knows they have better depth. They didn't have a starting O lineman out either.

Pretty disappointing to see UNI hang with JMU, even with our injuries we could have competed very well with JMU.

I'm also not sold on NDSU having inordinately greater RB, DL, WR, or LB depth compared to Jacks. Rather, the Jacks were snakebit with concurrent timing of RB injuries and OL ineffectiveness at crucial junctures this season.

As for JMU, it seemed their OL and UNI's ineffectiveness passing separated yesterday's teams. If I were a UNI fan, I would be incredibly concerned with McElvain's propensity to lose yardage when scrambling, which could be exacerbated next season with some of their OL graduating. I believe JMU also stands to lose multiple OL starters and a handful of FBS transfers including their QB.

[AZjack]

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I’ll be that guy. NDSU’s backup QB would have started this year for SDSU. He was an Iowa St transfer that started some games for them. And I’m guessing they would have found a RB. Yes, it would have hurt them but they have way more depth.

You missed the point, but whatever. Injuries that SDSU had would have cost NDSU as well even when everyone knows they have better depth. They didn't have a starting O lineman out either.

Pretty disappointing to see UNI hang with JMU, even with our injuries we could have competed very well with JMU.

[SDSUAlum08]

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Sort of how football works. If Trey Lance goes down for the year, Bison would have lost some games and be on the road in the playoffs. Losing a starting QB, and RB1 and 2 is something that not even NDSU would have overcome. Don't spout off how great your backup is, he's a backup for a reason.

I’ll be that guy. NDSU’s backup QB would have started this year for SDSU. He was an Iowa St transfer that started some games for them. And I’m guessing they would have found a RB. Yes, it would have hurt them but they have way more depth.

[AZjack]

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SDSU had 4 regular season losses. They are lucky they got the 7 seed and personally think they got the 7 instead of 8 because the committee did not want to hear about NDSU and UNI/SDSU in the same pod.

For the record the SDSU team that hosted Gameday was significantly better than the SDSU team that lost to UNI. However, that is how FB works and why depth is so important in the playoffs.

Sort of how football works. If Trey Lance goes down for the year, Bison would have lost some games and be on the road in the playoffs. Losing a starting QB, and RB1 and 2 is something that not even NDSU would have overcome. Don't spout off how great your backup is, he's a backup for a reason.

[scbison]

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I had a nice reply all typed out and somehow lost it. I will try to re-create it.

My thought #4 is based on the assumption that there is a bit of bias against the MVFC in the committee. I am saying that both SDSU and UNI deserve a seed. If there is the bias, then you would pit one of those two against NDSU to eliminate a MVFC team. So, UNI/SDSU are 7/8 and thus, one goes up against NDSU in the quarters. Of course, if SDSU beats USD(r?), this is more than likely moot as they are 3/4 (I hope).

I have only watched UNI twice this season, and that has been their last two games. I assume that a team that finished second in the MFVC has a better offense than what I have seen. I also only know that USD(b?) had a 'high power' offense but I haven't heard anything about the defense. Being in the stands, UNI offense was poor. The defense most definitely won them that game. I think most people would agree that their offense the past two games has looked very bad. Maybe the HS reference is too harsh.

-So that is close to what I had before, but it lacks some of the previous elegance.

SDSU had 4 regular season losses. They are lucky they got the 7 seed and personally think they got the 7 instead of 8 because the committee did not want to hear about NDSU and UNI/SDSU in the same pod.

For the record the SDSU team that hosted Gameday was significantly better than the SDSU team that lost to UNI. However, that is how FB works and why depth is so important in the playoffs.