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  • slosho
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    [QUOTE=Jackedforlife;314208]
    Originally posted by slosho View Post
    It seems we never heard count on 4th and or 3rd. Why not? Communist football?

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    I believe it may be due to the fact it's difficult to clap a "hard count", but maybe I'm incorrect.
    Duh. Sorry.

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  • Jackedforlife
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    [QUOTE=slosho;314205]It seems we never heard count on 4th and or 3rd. Why not? Communist football?

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    I believe it may be due to the fact it's difficult to clap a "hard count", but maybe I'm incorrect.

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  • slosho
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    It seems we never heard count on 4th and or 3rd. Why not? Communist football?

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  • jackdaniel
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    Originally posted by MontanaRabbit View Post
    I guess my perception wasn't too far off. We were far from great on 4th down. I don't know how much can be attributed to the shotgun approach though.

    As far as the offense and efficiency I don't think our offense was particularly impressive late in the year.
    If you run the 1-3 downs effectively,you don't need the fourth down.Really don't like a lot of 4th down plays for the season.There always seems to be one down that gets nothing or loses yardage.Work towards eliminating that ,and the rest works out just fine.The Bison approach I call it.

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  • Jackedforlife
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    Originally posted by THE PRIDE IS BACK!!! View Post
    I wonder where the team would rank if they took out the Dakota Marker game from last year where they went for it on every fourth down (you know, the one they never punted in.) So many fourth downs that the Jacks didn't convert that might not have even been taken if they didn't want to win the Marker so badly.
    We didn't convert around 3 or 4 times in the marker game. If we take 4 away there we're at 6 for 11, 54.5%. While an improvement, not stunningly so...convert 2 of those it improves it there as well. From what I remember, a couple of those 4th downs we missed were less than a yard. I like when we play aggressive like that. Let's do the same on defense now.

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  • THE PRIDE IS BACK!!!
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    I wonder where the team would rank if they took out the Dakota Marker game from last year where they went for it on every fourth down (you know, the one they never punted in.) So many fourth downs that the Jacks didn't convert that might not have even been taken if they didn't want to win the Marker so badly.

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  • MontanaRabbit
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    Originally posted by GopherHole View Post
    Here's a little reality to compare to your perception. Last year, SDSU converted on 6 out of 15 - fourth down conversions. At 40%, we tied for 90th out of 122 FCS teams. Only Illinois State (25%) and Missouri State (33%) were worse that the Rabbits in the MVFC. UNI (67%), NDSU (62%), WIU (59%) and USD (57%) were all ranked in the top 50.

    The NCAA does not have statistics on third and short, but SDSU did very well on third down overall at 46%. That ranked us at third in the MVFC and 13th nationally. No doubt, we'd love to be more effective in short yardage situations, but our offense was highly effective last year.
    I guess my perception wasn't too far off. We were far from great on 4th down. I don't know how much can be attributed to the shotgun approach though.

    As far as the offense and efficiency I don't think our offense was particularly impressive late in the year.

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  • GopherHole
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    Originally posted by MontanaRabbit View Post
    It certainly doesn't eliminate them all. NDSU has QB runs from under center. I seem to remember several bootlegs with Stick last year.

    I'd like to at least see a package with TC under center for short yardage situations. It might just be perception but we seemed to struggle last year on 3rd/4th and short.
    Here's a little reality to compare to your perception. Last year, SDSU converted on 6 out of 15 - fourth down conversions. At 40%, we tied for 90th out of 122 FCS teams. Only Illinois State (25%) and Missouri State (33%) were worse that the Rabbits in the MVFC. UNI (67%), NDSU (62%), WIU (59%) and USD (57%) were all ranked in the top 50.

    The NCAA does not have statistics on third and short, but SDSU did very well on third down overall at 46%. That ranked us at third in the MVFC and 13th nationally. No doubt, we'd love to be more effective in short yardage situations, but our offense was highly effective last year.

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  • MontanaRabbit
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    Originally posted by Jack_IL View Post
    Being in the shotgun can help dictate linebacker alignment based on the side the back is aligned/shifts too. Can create better angles for certain run concepts. Also being under center takes away majority (if not all) of the possibilities for QB run which allows defenses to play faster without that threat. With Taryn I think we would be making a huge mistake constantly being under center, it was much different with 6-Ball at QB a few years ago. Personally I love it, more possibilities for a defense to prepare for.

    I love the depth at RB that could prove important especially with teams focused on our passing threats next season. Losing Harms concerns me, we may have some young LB's next year who may go through some growing pains early in the season.
    Still I am very optimistic about next season!
    It certainly doesn't eliminate them all. NDSU has QB runs from under center. I seem to remember several bootlegs with Stick last year.

    I'd like to at least see a package with TC under center for short yardage situations. It might just be perception but we seemed to struggle last year on 3rd/4th and short.

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  • Jackedforlife
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    Originally posted by Jack_IL View Post
    Being in the shotgun can help dictate linebacker alignment based on the side the back is aligned/shifts too. Can create better angles for certain run concepts. Also being under center takes away majority (if not all) of the possibilities for QB run which allows defenses to play faster without that threat. With Taryn I think we would be making a huge mistake constantly being under center, it was much different with 6-Ball at QB a few years ago. Personally I love it, more possibilities for a defense to prepare for.

    I love the depth at RB that could prove important especially with teams focused on our passing threats next season. Losing Harms concerns me, we may have some young LB's next year who may go through some growing pains early in the season.
    Still I am very optimistic about next season!
    Great insight, thanks! My concern, albeit unfounded, is on short yardage and how slow the play develops. I think that was the problem with the safety we surrendered in Fargo, also I believe being a counter didn't help. But if being in shotgun full time builds consistency with the line and everything else, wonderful.

    We are going to be very young at LB and may even see incoming FR contributing. The longer camp should give them some time to learn more, a few are physically ready to be out there I think. Mentally this should help catch them up. It also sounds like many will be in Brookings this summer for workouts as well. I also see a couple of the incoming DL as being able to play immediately too.

    Is it August 31st yet?

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  • Jack_IL
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    Being in the shotgun can help dictate linebacker alignment based on the side the back is aligned/shifts too. Can create better angles for certain run concepts. Also being under center takes away majority (if not all) of the possibilities for QB run which allows defenses to play faster without that threat. With Taryn I think we would be making a huge mistake constantly being under center, it was much different with 6-Ball at QB a few years ago. Personally I love it, more possibilities for a defense to prepare for.

    I love the depth at RB that could prove important especially with teams focused on our passing threats next season. Losing Harms concerns me, we may have some young LB's next year who may go through some growing pains early in the season.
    Still I am very optimistic about next season!

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  • Jackedforlife
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    Anyone notice that Ogunrinde was absent from the sidelines on Saturday. It looked like everyone else was there but I did not see Tolu. Maybe I missed him but just curious.

    I liked what I saw from the few RB's who did play. Roths reminded me of a Kyle Minnett out there.

    I also noticed Clark taking 2nd team Reps. I'm hopeful that's a testament to the strength and development of young men coming up, not that he took a step back. We are in a strong position with the 605hogs I think. Although I'm still on the fence about this full time shotgun.

    I really hope someone steps steps up at longsnapper and practices all summer. The thought of rozeboom having to do that causes me concern. Although hopefully Mr Hale sees very minimal duty.

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  • BTownJack
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    Originally posted by BigGoosie13 View Post
    Yikes, that's gotta suck for all the businesses east of 29.
    Yeah, all business along 6th St. to 22nd Ave. will be adversely affected. I would argue the business between I-29 and 22nd Ave. will take the biggest hit. The east bound bridge is still functional and is handling both east and west traffic. From what I know there won't be any point where there is not at least a partial bridge going across the interstate. So far it hasn't been bad outside of the morning and evening commute times (around 8AM & 5PM). Let's face it, it may add 1-3 minutes to your commute through this area. In the grand scheme of things, not a big deal at all. If you really need your queso fix at Qdoba you can still get it.

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  • Nidaros
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    Originally posted by BigGoosie13 View Post
    Yikes, that's gotta suck for all the businesses east of 29.
    Believe it or not The Brookings Register had a front page article about the City being a head of most other SD towns in sales tax revenue for 2017. This of course was before the construction started. There are several hotels and Applebees east of I-29. We will see how this turns out.

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  • BigGoosie13
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    Originally posted by BTownJack View Post
    I would concur on this being a resident of Brookings. Avoid 6th street at all costs this summer. In 2 weeks after SDSU is done with the spring semester then the intersection of 22nd Ave. and 6th St. (by Perkins) is getting shut down and tore up. The contractor has 75 days to get that part of the project done so it is complete before the SDSU kids come back in late August. Using the bypass is recommended unless you need to get to a business near the main interstate exit (132).

    This project will be a mess for quite a while. Both bridges crossing the interstate are coming out to be replaced by 1 large bridge with 5 lanes. The west bound bridge is already gone. Some of the project will spill into next spring/summer (2018).
    Yikes, that's gotta suck for all the businesses east of 29.

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