Just A Game.

[TK22867]

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Back to Nidaros' original intent of this thread: Not to make this too personal, but in May of this year I lost my dad to cancer at the age of 63. He was in the VA in Sioux Falls for a total of 27 days from diagnosis to his passing.

If you take a step back and think about it, in the grand scheme of life, the status of Jackrabbit football, or the status of any of your favorite sports teams for that matter, really doesn't mean jack sh$t.

It really is just a game.

[SUPERBUNNY]

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If it were only a few bad games I wouldn't be worried. Its bad seasons we are talking about. And if it continues we are kidding our selves if we think it won't affect donor giving. If tob stays qb we could look at 3 years of losing. Who knows the damage it will bring to future years if we don't correct things soon.

OK, I think you have made your point.

SUPERBUNNY

[goon]

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Winning makes it easier to raise money. But honestly, the kinds of donors who have big bucks to give to a stadium campaign aren't going to change their minds based on a couple of bad games.

If it were only a few bad games I wouldn't be worried. Its bad seasons we are talking about. And if it continues we are kidding our selves if we think it won't affect donor giving. If tob stays qb we could look at 3 years of losing. Who knows the damage it will bring to future years if we don't correct things soon.

[JimmyJack]

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The ability we have to raise money will directly be tied to how the team does. If I recall from my reading about stadium for state. Sdsu was lucky enough to get what we have now and what we have was scaled back from what we wanted then. I see the same thing happen. If we are a team that makes the playoffs most years we raise enough to get what we want. If we continue to be a 6-5 team like we usually are, then we get a scaled back but close to what we want. If we continue to trend to be a losing team year after year, we are lucky to get a fraction of what we want. What the team does the next 10 years will directly affect the stadium we will get. Maybe I am the only one who see it that way but it is imo.

Winning makes it easier to raise money. But honestly, the kinds of donors who have big bucks to give to a stadium campaign aren't going to change their minds based on a couple of bad games.

[goon]

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No doubt building the indoor facility and the football facility are both going to require some work. I being old enough to have witnessed the Staduim for State affair, realize that this is a tough sell from day one. Losing games probably does not help the cause, but they do not determine its out come entirely. If our losing continues and our attendence slids, then I would think our admin officals would take a look at the sport and consider dropping it or putting forth more resources to make it competitive and move forward with the new staduim. My point is two games or one or two losing seasons will not determine the outcome. Its more of a long range decision.

The ability we have to raise money will directly be tied to how the team does. If I recall from my reading about stadium for state. Sdsu was lucky enough to get what we have now and what we have was scaled back from what we wanted then. I see the same thing happen. If we are a team that makes the playoffs most years we raise enough to get what we want. If we continue to be a 6-5 team like we usually are, then we get a scaled back but close to what we want. If we continue to trend to be a losing team year after year, we are lucky to get a fraction of what we want. What the team does the next 10 years will directly affect the stadium we will get. Maybe I am the only one who see it that way but it is imo.

[Nidaros]

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Not saying it wouldnt work. Just saying it took a hard transition and hard work to build support to the highest levels we have ever seen. Everybody loves a winner. If attendance does not improve the next few years, and we keep sending out teams that give up 100 points and only score 17 every 2 games, its going to be tough to get every one on board. There is plently of support no matter how good or how bad the team is. That is a given. whats not given is how much more support can a loosing program build beyond what is there now? Its going to take everyone and then some to get on board for all the plans for football, basketball, indoor practice facility, etc....How many years of just losing a game, turns into a trend. We squeeked into the playoffs, lost in epic style, and since then, we have not shown any improvement from last year or this year. Well, then again we did win our first game luckily this year, thats new.

No doubt building the indoor facility and the football facility are both going to require some work. I being old enough to have witnessed the Staduim for State affair, realize that this is a tough sell from day one. Losing games probably does not help the cause, but they do not determine its out come entirely. If our losing continues and our attendence slids, then I would think our admin officals would take a look at the sport and consider dropping it or putting forth more resources to make it competitive and move forward with the new staduim. My point is two games or one or two losing seasons will not determine the outcome. Its more of a long range decision.

[goon]

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I have yet to have any private conversations with AD Sell, but for you characterise his efforts in getting the new staduim built based on football stats is pure baloney. Mr Sell comes across in a very positive manner in the media and from that I do not think that he will be intimidated in approaching a generous donor because our offense is vanilla. Is that donor going to care what our offense did or did not do or how our coaches called the plays? Hell no, they will see the new staduim and naming rights as a means of advertizing their company or a means of feeding their ego by getting their name on the staduim. We could loose every game for the next five years and people will still show up and donors will still donate. Things will work out trust me.

Not saying it wouldnt work. Just saying it took a hard transition and hard work to build support to the highest levels we have ever seen. Everybody loves a winner. If attendance does not improve the next few years, and we keep sending out teams that give up 100 points and only score 17 every 2 games, its going to be tough to get every one on board. There is plently of support no matter how good or how bad the team is. That is a given. whats not given is how much more support can a loosing program build beyond what is there now? Its going to take everyone and then some to get on board for all the plans for football, basketball, indoor practice facility, etc....How many years of just losing a game, turns into a trend. We squeeked into the playoffs, lost in epic style, and since then, we have not shown any improvement from last year or this year. Well, then again we did win our first game luckily this year, thats new.

[Nidaros]

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Its going to be hard for Sell to well, sellthe idea of a new stadium and to get more season ticket holders when the team gives up over 1000 yards 100 points while only scoring 17 points and scoring more points for the other team throwing pick 6s.

Our offense its a compilment to call it vanilla. Our D was best its ever been a few years ago and now its the worst I have ever seen. The coaches are sticking with tob and only they know why.

It satrts with coaches making chsanges to both side ans preparing the team better and then the players responding to it. I as a fan will look forward to those improbement but the trending we have been doing for over 2 years gives little hope. I will be back again next week to cheer the jacks. I am just not going to hold my breath.

I have yet to have any private conversations with AD Sell, but for you characterise his efforts in getting the new staduim built based on football stats is pure baloney. Mr Sell comes across in a very positive manner in the media and from that I do not think that he will be intimidated in approaching a generous donor because our offense is vanilla. Is that donor going to care what our offense did or did not do or how our coaches called the plays? Hell no, they will see the new staduim and naming rights as a means of advertizing their company or a means of feeding their ego by getting their name on the staduim. We could loose every game for the next five years and people will still show up and donors will still donate. Things will work out trust me.

[EQguy]

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I understand its just a game but really there is much more to it than that. Scholarships, endless hours of working out, coaches jobs possible being on the line and the list goes on. It is true that we need to keep things in perspective but for those going thru it it is much more than that!

You're right speed. But fan perspective in this case is very important. Anyone who believes they know more than our coaching staff needs to change their line of work and get out there. Its not wrong to question, and second guessing is part of our nature. But it is wrong to believe you know more than they do. They are there day in and day out, they view the tape from every angle, they know the heart of the players and are going to do what they feel is best because their livelihood depends on it.

[goon]

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It is more then just a game wheb this goes back to that montana loss in the playoffs. It goes to all of last year so far our 3 games this year. Any momentum and fan support we got during the transition is long gone.

Its going to be hard for Sell to well, sellthe idea of a new stadium and to get more season ticket holders when the team gives up over 1000 yards 100 points while only scoring 17 points and scoring more points for the other team throwing pick 6s.

Our offense its a compilment to call it vanilla. Our D was best its ever been a few years ago and now its the worst I have ever seen. The coaches are sticking with tob and only they know why.

It satrts with coaches making chsanges to both side ans preparing the team better and then the players responding to it. I as a fan will look forward to those improbement but the trending we have been doing for over 2 years gives little hope. I will be back again next week to cheer the jacks. I am just not going to hold my breath.

[SpeedRabbit]

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Thanks for this thread! My wife always says this as well and in the bigger picture, she is right!

I understand its just a game but really there is much more to it than that. Scholarships, endless hours of working out, coaches jobs possible being on the line and the list goes on. It is true that we need to keep things in perspective but for those going thru it it is much more than that!

[Nidaros]

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They were just a few plays from being a very close game. Two pick 6's, QB going down at the one at the end of the half. If those three plays ended differently you could of added 14 points to SDSU's total and taken 14 away from Poly's. Also it is a long trip out to SLO. SDSU is still a very good team that will win some games this year.

Thanks SloStang, you are a classy winner. Your analysis will help pick some of the spirits off the floor, mine in particular, and put them back in the stands two weeks from now when we come home to take on Indiana State, who has a good QB who transferred from U of Wash. We are going to have a rough ride this season unless our guys start to pick up. I think we drew the wrong mustang yesterday.(rodeo reference).

[SloStang]

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They were just a few plays from being a very close game. Two pick 6's, QB going down at the one at the end of the half. If those three plays ended differently you could of added 14 points to SDSU's total and taken 14 away from Poly's. Also it is a long trip out to SLO. SDSU is still a very good team that will win some games this year.

[TailGatr]

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Thanks for this thread! My wife always says this as well and in the bigger picture, she is right!

[Nidaros]

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Good post Nidaros......"old wise man" ,haha! I was thinking the same thing,kind of,being a crummy team now gives us a lot to work on and will make fans even more proud of the team once they've gone through the trials and tribulations and emerge from all this a confident, successful football team.

Thanks old but hardly wise.