Summit League BB transfers

[goon]

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Keeping Daum when he could have gone anywhere in the country said a lot about players desire to play for TJ, but most of the players that have transferred left because they weren't playing. I never fault a kid for moving on to a place to get more playing time.

I will give you Key and Carter III though, as there appears to be issues at hand there other than playing time.

Tj should consider him self lucky daum and Reed stayed. They could have left but waited to give the new coach a chance. I think that's all I would ask kids to atleast give the new coach a chance to make an impression before you decide. If they left tj would not be coaching at unlv now.

[Kemo]

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We did? TJ had several players transfer out of the program. Some were his and some were Nagy's.

Keeping Daum when he could have gone anywhere in the country said a lot about players desire to play for TJ, but most of the players that have transferred left because they weren't playing. I never fault a kid for moving on to a place to get more playing time.

I will give you Key and Carter III though, as there appears to be issues at hand there other than playing time.

[JACKGUYII]

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My thoughts on the transfer thing is a program needs to a create a culture that makes kids want to stay, not feel like they have to stay.

We actually had that going with TJ, but once he moved on, that went out the window. It sucks, but coaching changes happen, and defections aren't unique to SDSU when it does. I think Hendo can reestablish that kind of a culture quickly, but it was unrealistic to think he could go through this recruiting season unscathed. Even though he has been an assistant, every kid on the roster commit to TJ's program, not Eric's.

It's been rough the last few weeks, but I think when the dust settles we're still going to have a pretty good basketball team.

We did? TJ had several players transfer out of the program. Some were his and some were Nagy's.

[Kemo]

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George Marshall and Cody Larson both came from P5 schools and had huge impacts on our program.

Tagyn Larson as well for the women.

I agree that the huge transfer numbers in basketball is troubling, but it does work both ways. I'd say we've benefited far more from transfers over the years than have been hurt by them.

My thoughts on the transfer thing is a program needs to a create a culture that makes kids want to stay, not feel like they have to stay.

We actually had that going with TJ, but once he moved on, that went out the window. It sucks, but coaching changes happen, and defections aren't unique to SDSU when it does. I think Hendo can reestablish that kind of a culture quickly, but it was unrealistic to think he could go through this recruiting season unscathed. Even though he has been an assistant, every kid on the roster commit to TJ's program, not Eric's.

It's been rough the last few weeks, but I think when the dust settles we're still going to have a pretty good basketball team.

[goon]

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Apples to oranges but wants the retention and transfer rate for general student populations? Gotta guess it's worse then that. Not to make it seem less of a problem but just away to look at it.

[Nidaros]

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It's actually a higher % than that since the men can only have 13 scholarship players.

Using 13 scholarships, it’s 15% Double uffda, why so many bad choices. It can’t be all about greener grass.

[Justwin]

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Grad transfer proposal was voted down.
https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/sta...77955870547968

Good.

[Jacks-02]

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A few years back when this transfer thing was starting to heat up the argument was made that transfers for mid majors is a two way street. While the mid majors have the risk of losing their star players to P-5 schools they also have the opportunity to pick up transfers from the P-5's who see little or no playing time. So my question for this board is who is likely to have a greater impact on their new team, the mid major star moving up or the number 9-13 players sitting on end of the bench on the high major rosters moving down in search of playing time. After watching Mooney I'd argue that it's more likely the mid major stars will have an impact on their new team than someone moving down,anybody have a good example of somebody moving down and making a significant impact.

George Marshall and Cody Larson both came from P5 schools and had huge impacts on our program.

Tagyn Larson as well for the women.

I agree that the huge transfer numbers in basketball is troubling, but it does work both ways. I'd say we've benefited far more from transfers over the years than have been hurt by them.

[UWMandSDSU]

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Grad transfer proposal was voted down.
https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/sta...77955870547968

[jrd]

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Matt Mooney - he was at Air Force first

That's true, and I must be getting older and my memory getting worse as I didn't even think about Cody Larsen and George Marshall for us. So maybe the answer for the mid majors is to step up and find the right guys to transfer in.

[jackrabbit1979]

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Since this is in a smack thread it's ok. Oh wait.....

My sentiments exactly...

[goon]

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I always hoped we could catch a few guys like cody Larsen. Well for different reasons but guys who went power conference and it didnt work out or stuck on the bench but good players who want a chance to play or a start over. Like Marshall. I figured we would be a net gain and not loss. I think if we can keep winning the summit league most years we might see a trickle down effect for us.

[BTownJack]

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A few years back when this transfer thing was starting to heat up the argument was made that transfers for mid majors is a two way street. While the mid majors have the risk of losing their star players to P-5 schools they also have the opportunity to pick up transfers from the P-5's who see little or no playing time. So my question for this board is who is likely to have a greater impact on their new team, the mid major star moving up or the number 9-13 players sitting on end of the bench on the high major rosters moving down in search of playing time. After watching Mooney I'd argue that it's more likely the mid major stars will have an impact on their new team than someone moving down,anybody have a good example of somebody moving down and making a significant impact.

Matt Mooney - he was at Air Force first

[jrd]

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A few years back when this transfer thing was starting to heat up the argument was made that transfers for mid majors is a two way street. While the mid majors have the risk of losing their star players to P-5 schools they also have the opportunity to pick up transfers from the P-5's who see little or no playing time. So my question for this board is who is likely to have a greater impact on their new team, the mid major star moving up or the number 9-13 players sitting on end of the bench on the high major rosters moving down in search of playing time. After watching Mooney I'd argue that it's more likely the mid major stars will have an impact on their new team than someone moving down,anybody have a good example of somebody moving down and making a significant impact.

[BTownJack]

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It's actually a higher % than that since the men can only have 13 scholarship players.

Somewhere I read an article recently that said 40% of D-I basketball players don't make it past their sophomore year at the college they initially signed with. Now, I don't remember how far back they went to create this metric but regardless, it was pretty alarming.

Not sure if this is the exact article, but it does list the same stat:
https://thecomeback.com/ncaa/college...ee-agency.html