Scott Sutton Fired

[joeboo22]

Re: Scott Sutton Fired

People will work in no-win, sh*tty situations for the $, God knows I do......

[OldHare]

Re: Scott Sutton Fired

Looks like there must have been TONS of interest in that job.....

$$$TONS$$$

[Rabbitball]

Re: Scott Sutton Fired

Looks like there must have been TONS of interest in that job.....

[OldHare]

Re: Scott Sutton Fired

https://www.fanragsports.com/news/or...ls-head-coach/

[Nidaros]

Re: Scott Sutton Fired

I been looking at the ORU board. They had a feed of the press conference today by the AD and President. It sounds like they were negotiating for SS to stay one more year and their buy out at that point in time. SS did not buy into that and now will be paid 2 years of salary. Its clear, SS was not wanted so why waste a year in a unwanted situation? The president denied the existence of a tattoo policy for student athletes although ORU employees are not permitted to show tattoos while on the job. Also the faith test does not exist but they do have something similar in which you are not barred from recruitment if you are weak in a given area but strong in others. I would suggest the curious go to the ORU board for a more clear explanation. It was also mentioned that in 36 hours, ORU had received 40 resumes. I think they can afford to be picky.

From an old geezers point of view, I have trouble accepting tattoos and rings in the nose and tongue. Youth is one time when you have some beauty and why deface it with life-time tattoos and rings etc. It just does not make no sense. I admire ORU for standing up to these mindless procedures that are indeed popular, but just dont make any sense to me. I am 75 and probably will not be around 15 years from now. In heaven there will be no tattoos I hope, but someone will manage to sneak in a hells angel emblem on their arm.

[Golden Eagle]

Re: Scott Sutton Fired

Does Sutton have a shot at assistant coach in P5 or G5 or does he land another Mid Major head coaching job?

I am sure Sutton will get another head coaching job a start winning a ton of games without all these restrictions

[filbert]

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That's how I took the "no tattoos." It's somewhere in Leviticus, if I remember correctly. It makes sense for the private university, but they also need to realize it's going to hurt all their programs, not just basketball. A lot of those guys have tattoos with some religious meaning to them which makes the situations kinda, also. I'm going to stick with what I said before and say they should move down to D2 or D3 with these restrictions in play. They don't have the name or program to be able to draw in students with the qualifications and talent they want.

I had a post similar to this one that succumbed to "types . . . deletes" syndrome.

If that's the way ORU wants to go, that's the way they should go. If the "character" (however defined) is more important to them than the success of their basketball team, more power to them.

But if that's the way they want to go, I agree that maybe D1 and the Summit League isn't where they really want to be.

[THE PRIDE IS BACK!!!]

Re: Scott Sutton Fired

I don't know much about ORU, but if they're asking recruits to pass a "faith test" and are as hardcore of a Christian University as it looks like they are, my guess is that the tattoo ban is likely tied to scripture and desecration of the body rather then being in place to not recruit "thugs". That's what I initially thought of it anyways.

That's how I took the "no tattoos." It's somewhere in Leviticus, if I remember correctly. It makes sense for the private university, but they also need to realize it's going to hurt all their programs, not just basketball. A lot of those guys have tattoos with some religious meaning to them which makes the situations kinda, also. I'm going to stick with what I said before and say they should move down to D2 or D3 with these restrictions in play. They don't have the name or program to be able to draw in students with the qualifications and talent they want.

[TK22867]

Re: Scott Sutton Fired

Some people say stereotypes exist for a reason...

Are you saying that ORU is concerned their basketball program will recruit thugs, gang bangers, and felons? Or are you saying ORU is concerned with the perception of their university and basketball program?

The first seems pretty ridiculous, the second seems like a reasonable concern of almost any organization. Especially an organization that relies on private donations for funding...

If true, the restrictions make the coaches jobe [much] more difficult. That's it, IMO.

I don't know much about ORU, but if they're asking recruits to pass a "faith test" and are as hardcore of a Christian University as it looks like they are, my guess is that the tattoo ban is likely tied to scripture and desecration of the body rather then being in place to not recruit "thugs". That's what I initially thought of it anyways.

[RabbitObsessed]

Re: Scott Sutton Fired

Edited because I don't feel like getting into an internet argument.

[SF_Rabbit_Fan]

Re: Scott Sutton Fired

In basketball?

It's common for people to see someone covered in tattoos and just assume they are a thug, gang banger, felon, whatever...

http://www.debate.org/opinions/are-t...-united-states
https://rampages.us/browningnc/2015/...es-of-tattoos/

Some people say stereotypes exist for a reason...

Are you saying that ORU is concerned their basketball program will recruit thugs, gang bangers, and felons? Or are you saying ORU is concerned with the perception of their university and basketball program?

The first seems pretty ridiculous, the second seems like a reasonable concern of almost any organization. Especially an organization that relies on private donations for funding...

If true, the restrictions make the coaches jobe [much] more difficult. That's it, IMO.

[Nidaros]

Re: Scott Sutton Fired

What a complete mess...I can't imagine having a school administrator behave like that, I realize they are a private school but you can't run a DI athletics department like this...

Another local product, Booker T. Washington’s Korey Billbury, who played at ORU from 2012 to 2015, sounded off on Sutton’s release.

“He was always a good person to us,” Billbury said. “He was tough and demanding, but he always gave us his best as well. I appreciate him for giving me my first Division I offer I ever had. I can’t ever repay him for that. He didn’t deserve to find out the way he did. They tied his hands with recruiting. There was nothing more he could do with what they gave him. His track records before the new president came proved that he could win and bring in talent.

“That job will be a task to be successful in as long as the president is judging players before he even meets them.”

http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextr...d505e6b15.html

Maybe the most relieved person is Scott Sutton, when you are not wanted, there no hope in staying around. With Billy boy as the president, I suspect they will not have to make the trip to SF for one and done.

[Nidaros]

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What is the faith test btw?

A very good question. With a theology that is very ideological bent to it, saying you believe in the Pope will be a deep sixer of answer and a final score of minus 55.

[FargoBison]

Re: Scott Sutton Fired

What a complete mess...I can't imagine having a school administrator behave like that, I realize they are a private school but you can't run a DI athletics department like this...

Another local product, Booker T. Washington’s Korey Billbury, who played at ORU from 2012 to 2015, sounded off on Sutton’s release.

“He was always a good person to us,” Billbury said. “He was tough and demanding, but he always gave us his best as well. I appreciate him for giving me my first Division I offer I ever had. I can’t ever repay him for that. He didn’t deserve to find out the way he did. They tied his hands with recruiting. There was nothing more he could do with what they gave him. His track records before the new president came proved that he could win and bring in talent.

“That job will be a task to be successful in as long as the president is judging players before he even meets them.”

http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextr...d505e6b15.html

[MontanaRabbit]

Re: Scott Sutton Fired

How is that stereotyping? Standards for physical appearance are fairly common.

In basketball?

It's common for people to see someone covered in tattoos and just assume they are a thug, gang banger, felon, whatever...

http://www.debate.org/opinions/are-t...-united-states
https://rampages.us/browningnc/2015/...es-of-tattoos/