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SD4Life
02-10-2007, 08:07 PM
I checked out USD's basketball webcasts (I wish SDSU had something like that) and was subjected to the worst play-by-play announcer I've ever heard. I'm not exaggerating -- the worst, bar none. I don't know his name (I'm not sure I want to know), but he sounds as if he's doing a lame impersonation of a schlocky announcer. There must be a special circle of hell where really bad sinners are forced to listen to this guy for eternity.

JimmyJack
02-10-2007, 10:02 PM
Agreed: Steve Imming is an outstanding play-by-play announcer. We are lucky to have him.

Haldersham
02-11-2007, 10:13 AM
I checked out USD's basketball webcasts (I wish SDSU had something like that) and was subjected to the worst play-by-play announcer I've ever heard. I'm not exaggerating -- the worst, bar none. I don't know his name (I'm not sure I want to know), but he sounds as if he's doing a lame impersonation of a schlocky announcer. There must be a special circle of hell where really bad sinners are forced to listen to this guy for eternity.

I think you were listening to either the father and son or both Cuhlane's who also have a daily sports show on 1590 AM which is a Vermillion/Yankton station. I like their sports show as they seem to get more details than maybe what SDSU and WNAX allow under their contract. The contract kind of controls the length and content of the pre and post game shows on WNAX. I think right now USD seem to be more in a promotional mode than SDSU, and maybe we don't have to go extra time before and after games. That would be my guess.

I dont care for some of the Culhane demeanor its often kind of smart alecky. It leaves a lot to be desired.

Steve Imming on the other hand is very professional, and fits the South Dakota humble low key image that we all try to maintain. Back in the NCC days, when there were back to back games in Brookings, you would see Steve at Perkins. He was very quiet, but always greeted the fans. I suppose if you wanted to spoil his meal, you could sit down and strike up a conversation, but that was not me. I also have listen him daily on WNAX and they try to have humor with the morning show with Steve Crawford. Sometimes Steve is on in the afternoon 4 to 6 with local talk host Jake Weber. Steve has what I call a dead pan sense of humor, but its always clean and often funny.

90Jackrabbit
02-11-2007, 03:28 PM
The play-by-play guy for u. is Kevin Culhane, the afternoon talk show host is his nephew Jeffey.

Jack4Life
02-11-2007, 03:52 PM
I am new to this site and am very excited to find it, living is SE SD, we get a little overdosed by the U. Culhane and his nephew do have a very high opinion of themselves and the U., it seems they can do no wrong...Steve does a very good job of being unbiased and just calls the game. Cully, however, is such a homer I can't stand it. It is more about him than it is the game...

West_River_Jack
02-11-2007, 08:54 PM
I was a big fan of the play-by-play as it was called by the late Norm Hilson. I was really concerned about what would happen to the way the games were called on the radio when his replacement was needed. I have also been extremely pleased with the way Mr. Imming does the job. I will not attempt to compare the two. There is absolutely no reason to do so. I appreciated Mr. Hilson. I continue to appreciate Mr. Imming!

Jack4Life
02-11-2007, 09:13 PM
Very well put West River Jack. I knew Norm very well and he and Steve have their own styles. I think we can be fortunate we have had the opportunity to listen to both. You are correct, no need to compare...

jackmd
02-11-2007, 09:14 PM
I was a big fan of the play-by-play as it was called by the late Norm Hilson. I was really concerned about what would happen to the way the games were called on the radio when his replacement was needed. I have also been extremely pleased with the way Mr. Imming does the job. I will not attempt to compare the two. There is absolutely no reason to do so. I appreciated Mr. Hilson. I continue to appreciate Mr. Imming!

Mr Hilson has at least 2 sons who live in Yankton now and both are great guys. I believe Norm did some work for USD too. Steve does a good job and I appreciate that. WNAX does a great job and I am extremely happy that they are our Jackrabbits radio station. I wish we could get them to commit more time to FB, pre-game, post-game, game week. I would be happy to help sponsor more exposure. Jerry O, Steve, several others are big SDSU supporters.

As for the Cullhanes. They are big time homers but they do service USD well. They tend to be blinded by the same arrogance that costs most USD fans the perspective they need to get along with your average SD citizen but thats more the USD culture than the Cullhane's fault. Don't bite the hand that feeds you.

Haldersham
02-11-2007, 10:31 PM
SDSU gave up their contract with WNAX briefly in 1989 or there abouts. USD step in and grab it. SDSU had paid WNAX to cover the games, and SDSU then had control over who supports the broadcast with advertizing. I believe its been a positive cash flow working it this way as opposed to selling the broadcast rights for a price and then the radio station gets what is left over after ads are sold. What triggered the breach with SDSU was WNAX wanted more money from SDSU when the contract was to be renewed and the AD at that time said no thanks.

I know that it was painful for Norm being so close to SDSU for all the years prior when SDSU gave up the broadcast contract to USD. His side kick Joe Van Goor was a USD grad and was all smiles when USD took over the contract. Norm passed away shortly after that change. About maybe two years later USD gave up on the contract with WNAX since they could not find the money to make it work. WNAX would not work the contract in any other fashion. Joe Van Goor and Jerry Oster handled at least one season of SDSU Football after Norm died and then, SDSU more or less put pressure on WNAX to get a new sports guy since our admin did not feel comfortable with Van Goor doing the broadcasts. At this point in time, Steve Emming was hired and replaced Van Goor who was very unhappy. Van Goor sent at least one letter to the editor of the Brookings Register that was very critical of SDSU adminstration that I recall. He also was very vocal when we had a sudden change in basketball coachs at SDSU about a year or two later. John Gross an alum from Madison and others gave a gifts sufficent to SDSU Foundation to get WNAX back doing SDSU games and thats where we are today. Just based on the USD history with WNAX, I am wondering if USD will have similar problems in meeting their budget. They had a chance to grab WNAX away from us and they could not hold on because they could not raise the funds and sell the ads. Maybe things are different at USD now. Who knows?

Son Chris Hilson was on WNAX and worked some with the football broadcast briefly. He seemed to be a great guy as was the legend his father Norm.

Both Norm and Steve have been real assets to SDSU athletics and to the entire Jack Community.

Haldersham
02-11-2007, 10:46 PM
The play-by-play guy for u. is Kevin Culhane, the afternoon talk show host is his nephew Jeffey.

Thanks. I knew they were blood relatives. I kind of hold my nose when I listen to the sports show occasionally on the web as that Vermin station hardly goes west of Mitchell and north of Sioux Falls. Not a strong AM signal. There coverage is interesting and different from KJJQ as I dont recall there is any high school coverage on their program.

juice
02-11-2007, 10:58 PM
[quote author=West-River_Jack
As for the Cullhanes. They are big time homers but they do service USD well. They tend to be blinded by the same arrogance that costs most USD fans the perspective they need to get along with your average SD citizen but thats more the USD culture than the Cullhane's fault.

You aren't really looking to be taken serious here, are you? This is just too perfect that this comment would come from the most arrogant guy on this site.

As for Kevin Culhane I wouldn't say he's arrogant, but I would say he's a big time homer. It can be tough to listen to a game, because you don't really know whether you are getting screwed or not. He acts like every call is so darn bad you just don't know if you should really be upset or not. He also will sometimes get so into the game that he doesn't do a good job of letting the listener know exactly what's going on. I could see where opposing fans would really hate him.

The younger Culhane, Jeff, has a pretty good sports talk show on 1570. I don't know if many of you ever listen to that, but I think you would find that much better than Kevin Culhane's play by play of games. He has a good interview with Stig the other day talking about State's recruiting class.

Some Spencer guy and I think Jeff were doing the announcing on the web cast the other night. I don't know if they always do it, but they were bad. It was kind of funny. Even though the announcing was bad, it was very nice getting to see the game, being that I wasn't able to make it. I wish they were able to do that for road games as well.

goon
02-12-2007, 05:31 PM
Are these the same people that do football for them also? I listened to a football game from them this last season after hearing that it was the most god aweful broadcast. If it is the same people, Why do they refer to the football team as the red swarm? Last i knew, cyaotes don't swarp. Also If the other team made a good play, they would not give credit to them, it was always USD made a little mistake and they got lucky if they scored. It was always USD did something great or they messed up, it was never the other team actually making a good play. Who USD should hire for game play by play, is one of their own, Mr Lueth. He was a journalism teacher at Washington in SF and did football and basketball with an unbiasedness that is rarely heard. He was fair to all teams no matter what the game. I guess he wasn't a radio play by play but in house annoucner. For what Steve does is vary fair. He has fairly insightful analysis and always upbeat. he never down plays how good or bad either team is playing and can provide some humor in his play by play.

JACKGUYII
02-12-2007, 07:09 PM
I think Kevin Culhane is dreadful on the Coyote Broadcasts. I also believe Jeff Culhane has one of the best sports talk shows in the state and while they focus on Coyote Sports as you would expect they also provide some balance with Jack coaches and others on the show. KWSN for being in the states largest market IMHO is a very poor production. I enjoy Steve Imming's broadcast, but think WNAX needs to step up the depth of their Jacks coverage significantly. Going on the air 15 minutes before the game does not seem to give me enough information. At least they have added a player interview after the game. I hope to see some expanded coverage for the upcoming football season.

jackmd
02-12-2007, 07:12 PM
You aren't really looking to be taken serious here, are you? This is just too perfect that this comment would come from the most arrogant guy on this site.


Its a web forum, take me as seriously as you would like. I've personally seen the Cullhanes in action and I listen to Jeff on a fairly regular basis. Joe is often with one or the other. You can choose to acknowledge their arrogance or not. I never said I wasn't arrogant when it comes to the topic of USD vs SDSU, especially on this forum. I attended both universities and now I am a faculty member at USD. People know my allegiance as it pertains to college athletics. There is definitely a feeling that USD is superior to SDSU in every way, regardless of fact. Arrogance is not always harmful, I would argue that any day.

I enjoy your perspective, juice, and I look forward to more interactions with you. Thats part of why I enjoy this forum so much. Its an opportunity to interact in a different fashion than most of my daily interactions. Sometimes I look to offend and I hope no feelings are hurt, at least not too badly.

goon
02-12-2007, 10:05 PM
This is a touch off the topic, but does WNAX broadcast over the whole state? It seems USD has several stations broadcasting games all over. Also where is that deal with kelo for for getting some of our sports on TV? They still working on a contract?

Jacks#1Fan
02-12-2007, 11:25 PM
This is a touch off the topic, but does WNAX broadcast over the whole state? It seems USD has several stations broadcasting games all over. Also where is that deal with kelo for for getting some of our sports on TV? They still working on a contract?


WNAX has a much stronger signal and can be heard from Rapid City (sometimes you have to get in the right place to get a strong signal), to North Dakota, to Minneapolis, and to down in Omaha. We are MUCH better served by WNAX -- in fact, just really fortunate to have them. We "dropped" them as said in an earlier post...because nobody could come up with the money at the time (I was very close to the conversations on that.) When we got the money lined up, we got them back, because USD couldn't afford it.

And while it would be nice to have more airtime, etc., it all costs money and we have a zillion people who all want more of something...so there are priorities....and priorities. We've got WNAX, we've got their FM station added to our Brookings station now for the women's basketball broadcasts...and we're just plain lucky to be in the position we are in regarding radio broadcasts. (Norm Hilson and I were great friends...he was a great guy...and Steve Imming is a great guy...so we're double lucky there too!)

jackmd
02-13-2007, 11:07 AM
And while it would be nice to have more airtime, etc., it all costs money and we have a zillion people who all want more of something...so there are priorities....and priorities. We've got WNAX, we've got their FM station added to our Brookings station now for the women's basketball broadcasts...and we're just plain lucky to be in the position we are in regarding radio broadcasts. (Norm Hilson and I were great friends...he was a great guy...and Steve Imming is a great guy...so we're double lucky there too!)

Perfectly stated. I use to listen to the Jacks on WNAX over the airways in Rochester, MN. Adding the FM station for the women's broadcasts is great for me here in Yankton.

The local station that covers USD is sometimes hard to get even in Yankton in the evening. Hence, the reason they are on several different stations.

Rabbitlivinginverm
02-13-2007, 11:12 AM
This is a touch off the topic, but does WNAX broadcast over the whole state? It seems USD has several stations broadcasting games all over. Also where is that deal with kelo for for getting some of our sports on TV? They still working on a contract?


WNAX has a much stronger signal and can be heard from Rapid City (sometimes you have to get in the right place to get a strong signal), to North Dakota, to Minneapolis, and to down in Omaha. We are MUCH better served by WNAX -- in fact, just really fortunate to have them. We "dropped" them as said in an earlier post...because nobody could come up with the money at the time (I was very close to the conversations on that.) When we got the money lined up, we got them back, because USD couldn't afford it.

And while it would be nice to have more airtime, etc., it all costs money and we have a zillion people who all want more of something...so there are priorities....and priorities. We've got WNAX, we've got their FM station added to our Brookings station now for the women's basketball broadcasts...and we're just plain lucky to be in the position we are in regarding radio broadcasts. (Norm Hilson and I were great friends...he was a great guy...and Steve Imming is a great guy...so we're double lucky there too!)

Heck, I can get WNAX in Sturgis but almost always listen in on the internet b/c I'd rather sit in my house than out in my car...

1stRowFANatic
02-13-2007, 11:30 AM
I've picked up a good WNAX signal from Wall all the way to the Twin Cities. However, that does not mean SDSU should not look at working with WNAX on adding more affiliates to the network. Picking up more stations opens up more sponsorship possibilities, and other connections to more areas.

Walrus
02-13-2007, 09:55 PM
I am very greatful for the large coverage area of WNAX. I live an hour from Fargo and I can usually get them on the radio just about anywhere in the house or in my truck. WDAY in Fargo which broadcasts NDSU games doesn't reach over here at night. I've listened to the WNAX post game show in the BSA parking lot more than once.

I liked Norm and I like Steve - both very good at their jobs. I remember one night Norm sang the national anthem at a game. Perhaps with letters and e-mails of encouragement from the members of this forum, Steve could be persuaded to do the same. ;)


GO JACKRABBITS

SUPERBUNNY
02-14-2007, 08:54 AM
Steve is an amazing play-by-play annoncer!

At the D-1, I believe all of the schools have the live stats that we can access through www.gojacks.com and bring a laptop and hook in to have the stats in front of them.

At the D-2 level, Steve had to do it all himself and never missed a beat. Hard to imagine how hard that would be but he did it effortlessly!

We are very lucky to have him doing football and basketball! Scotty Kwas also does an outstanding job!

SUPERBUNNY

BTownJack
02-14-2007, 09:03 AM
Let's not also forget both Steve and Scotty do their games alone, doing both the play-by-play and color commentary. You don't often see that done well and both of these guys are good at it. Keep up the good work!!!

SUPERBUNNY
02-14-2007, 09:08 AM
Let's not also forget both Steve and Scotty do their games alone, doing both the play-by-play and color commentary. You don't often see that done well and both of these guys are good at it. Keep up the good work!!!

Thanks BTown, I meant to throw it in there but forgot to! That was kind of my whole point for the post!

SUPERBUNNY

Jacks#1Fan
02-15-2007, 10:59 AM
I've picked up a good WNAX signal from Wall all the way to the Twin Cities. However, that does not mean SDSU should not look at working with WNAX on adding more affiliates to the network. Picking up more stations opens up more sponsorship possibilities, and other connections to more areas.

Actually, the affiliate process doesn't work that way, or that well. We are lucky to have the station with the strongest signal in the Great Plains area, so affiliates aren't as necessary. The schools (like USD) that go the affiliate direction, do it out of necessity because they can't get very good coverage with anyone station. Mostly they have to turn to FM stations, which have weak signals. So consider us lucky, and consider the fact that far-flung fans can listen via computer, and we're in good shape.

The future will be even more exciting, as visual broadcasts of our games will likely someday be available on pay-per-view around the country!! :D :D :D

jackmd
02-15-2007, 08:44 PM
You aren't really looking to be taken serious here, are you? This is just too perfect that this comment would come from the most arrogant guy on this site.

As for Kevin Culhane I wouldn't say he's arrogant, but I would say he's a big time homer. It can be tough to listen to a game, because you don't really know whether you are getting screwed or not. He acts like every call is so darn bad you just don't know if you should really be upset or not. He also will sometimes get so into the game that he doesn't do a good job of letting the listener know exactly what's going on. I could see where opposing fans would really hate him.

The younger Culhane, Jeff, has a pretty good sports talk show on 1570. I don't know if many of you ever listen to that, but I think you would find that much better than Kevin Culhane's play by play of games. He has a good interview with Stig the other day talking about State's recruiting class.

Some Spencer guy and I think Jeff were doing the announcing on the web cast the other night. I don't know if they always do it, but they were bad. It was kind of funny. Even though the announcing was bad, it was very nice getting to see the game, being that I wasn't able to make it. I wish they were able to do that for road games as well.

I was listening to Culhane today and he was talking about Kardoes playing for Augie. He said it won't mean much to USD or other NCC teams because the NCC is essentially equal to the GWFC and IAA football. Thats not arrogant? USD was pretty easily handled by a Central Arkansas team that we dominated. So, Culhane is either arrogant, naive, or both when it comes to this issue and I contend most other issues as they pertain to USD. He also made it seem like it was a bad idea for an "often-injured" Andy Kardoes. Culhane is what he is and thats a fact.

1bunnies
02-16-2007, 12:45 AM
There is probably a fine line between arrogance and stupidity. He may be the latter.

Jack4Life
02-16-2007, 06:30 AM
I was at work, kind of listening to Jeff Culhane's show and also heard his comment on the parity between the NCC and the GWFC and DIAA. At first I couldn't beleive what I just heard and kind of forgot about it till I read jackmd's post. This station is so self-centered on USD athletics that they just don't seem to get it that USD isn't always going to be the best, correct in all their decisions, or the high and mighty that they make them out to be. Hopefully a little reality will set in on them when they begin to make the move...

jackmd
02-16-2007, 09:36 AM
I think the Culhane's do a great service for USD and I like the sports programming on their station. I think they would admit that they are HUGE USD supporters like most of us here are HUGE SDSU supporters. To think they don't have a slanted view of what is in store for USD is just plain foolish. I wouldn't trade what we have for what they have, its different and thats okay. I think Steve and Scotty suit SDSU just fine and the Culhane's are just perfect for USD.

Jack4Life
02-16-2007, 10:00 AM
Jackmd, you might be right that each station is a good fit for the different schools. Part of my problem may be that I have lived within 25 miles of Vermillion my entire life except for my years @ SDSU. Don't know why, but I have been a State fan since I was real young. Listening to all the talk from USD may just be getting to me. Kind of like getting sick after eating too much of your favorite food, you just can't stand it anymore after that...Maybe I have heard too much USD information (and I use the word "information" lightly!)

SDSUJack3031
02-16-2007, 11:03 AM
You aren't really looking to be taken serious here, are you? This is just too perfect that this comment would come from the most arrogant guy on this site.

As for Kevin Culhane I wouldn't say he's arrogant, but I would say he's a big time homer. It can be tough to listen to a game, because you don't really know whether you are getting screwed or not. He acts like every call is so darn bad you just don't know if you should really be upset or not. He also will sometimes get so into the game that he doesn't do a good job of letting the listener know exactly what's going on. I could see where opposing fans would really hate him.

The younger Culhane, Jeff, has a pretty good sports talk show on 1570. I don't know if many of you ever listen to that, but I think you would find that much better than Kevin Culhane's play by play of games. He has a good interview with Stig the other day talking about State's recruiting class.

Some Spencer guy and I think Jeff were doing the announcing on the web cast the other night. I don't know if they always do it, but they were bad. It was kind of funny. Even though the announcing was bad, it was very nice getting to see the game, being that I wasn't able to make it. I wish they were able to do that for road games as well.

I was listening to Culhane today and he was talking about Kardoes playing for Augie. He said it won't mean much to USD or other NCC teams because the NCC is essentially equal to the GWFC and IAA football. Thats not arrogant? USD was pretty easily handled by a Central Arkansas team that we dominated. So, Culhane is either arrogant, naive, or both when it comes to this issue and I contend most other issues as they pertain to USD. He also made it seem like it was a bad idea for an "often-injured" Andy Kardoes. Culhane is what he is and thats a fact.


That's completely ridiculous....

Rabbitlivinginverm
02-16-2007, 11:30 AM
You aren't really looking to be taken serious here, are you? This is just too perfect that this comment would come from the most arrogant guy on this site.

As for Kevin Culhane I wouldn't say he's arrogant, but I would say he's a big time homer. It can be tough to listen to a game, because you don't really know whether you are getting screwed or not. He acts like every call is so darn bad you just don't know if you should really be upset or not. He also will sometimes get so into the game that he doesn't do a good job of letting the listener know exactly what's going on. I could see where opposing fans would really hate him.

The younger Culhane, Jeff, has a pretty good sports talk show on 1570. I don't know if many of you ever listen to that, but I think you would find that much better than Kevin Culhane's play by play of games. He has a good interview with Stig the other day talking about State's recruiting class.

Some Spencer guy and I think Jeff were doing the announcing on the web cast the other night. I don't know if they always do it, but they were bad. It was kind of funny. Even though the announcing was bad, it was very nice getting to see the game, being that I wasn't able to make it. I wish they were able to do that for road games as well.

I was listening to Culhane today and he was talking about Kardoes playing for Augie. He said it won't mean much to USD or other NCC teams because the NCC is essentially equal to the GWFC and IAA football. Thats not arrogant? USD was pretty easily handled by a Central Arkansas team that we dominated. So, Culhane is either arrogant, naive, or both when it comes to this issue and I contend most other issues as they pertain to USD. He also made it seem like it was a bad idea for an "often-injured" Andy Kardoes. Culhane is what he is and thats a fact.


That's completely ridiculous....

I'm sure they'll change their tune as soon as they join the Great West and face Davis and Poly. By that time, we'll be living the good life in the Gateway...