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Rabbitlivinginverm
07-15-2005, 03:58 PM
While traveling through South Eastern South Dakota last Wednesday I was listening to Lane Grindle on a.m. 1570. I believe Lane is a former USD track athlete who does a lot for USD related activities for the station (who hates SDSU). Whenever I travel through that area I try to catch his show and it seems he always mentions SDSU (and usually his distaste for Chris Solari). On Wednesday he had good reason to be talking about SDSU and our inking Kentucky for our season opener. He discussed how an SDSU fan would "spin" this opportunity, how he sees it, and how an SDSU "hater" would spin it. Not suprisingly his spin and the SDSU "hater" sounded remarkably similar. He ended the SDSU "hater's" spin by saying "we'll see you in 10 years when we have to go D1" which I got a laugh out of.

He went on to argue that the rivalry between SDSU and USD is even more of a rivalry now that we don't play each other so it can't be settled on the field. What do you all think? Is the rivalry now more intense than it ever was in the past? My opinion is that there is no more rivalry with usd, unless we play them again (usd will have to come to Brookings for that to happen).

Lane also said he checks out the board quite often so maybe he'll jump in and give his reasons as well.

filbert
07-15-2005, 06:14 PM
http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=rival

Rival:
1 a : one of two or more striving to reach or obtain something that only one can possess b : one striving for competitive advantage
2 obsolete : COMPANION, ASSOCIATE
3 : one that equals another in desired qualities : PEER

Rivalry:: the act of rivaling : the state of being a rival : COMPETITION

Are SDSU and USD striving for the same athletic goal? No. Are they peers athletically? No.

Some may not have noticed, but SDSU is in the process of classifying to NCAA Division I while USD has remained in D-II.

There may be a rivalry generally between the institutions, but there is not and can not (by definition, above) be an "athletic" rivalry between USD and SDSU.

Alabama and Kentucky are more SDSU's rivals now than USD is. This may be hard for Coyote fans to swallow, but they are as significant to SDSU's athletic reality today as are the Wolves, the Yellowjackets, the Trojans, and the Hardrockers--they're just another state school in South Dakota playing small-college athletics.

If USD moves up, the rivalry will re-ignite. But it's definitely in hibernation until that occurs. From here on out, any USD victory over an SDSU team will be an upset. ANY victory. The reaction of SDSU fans won't be anger (as in a rivalry) but horror that we got beat by a lower division school. That's not a rivalry. That's just the difference between D-I and D-II.

I realize that SDSU looks to Alabama and Kentucky a lot like what I'm saying USD looks like to SDSU. That's reality, too. We're starting at the bottom of a tall hill. But we're no longer in the valley where USD lives.

How close did I get to Lane's "SDSU fan" spin?

SiouxFallsJack
07-15-2005, 06:42 PM
It is my belief to have a rivalry you have to play the team you consider to be a rival. Sure, a war of words helps to fuel the anticipation and intensity of the event to come. Unfortunately if you don't play all you are doing is blowing hot air.

We did give usd the opportunity to continue playing but they turned us down. Once usd can get over their bitterness of SDSU leaving them behind in the NCC, maybe games can once more be scheduled. However, unless usd makes the move to DI, I don't see games being played again. It would serve no purpose to humiliate another institution in SD even if it was usd.


Well, one last time wouldn't hurt. ;D ;D ;D

SDSUFAN
07-17-2005, 04:32 AM
While traveling through South Eastern South Dakota last Wednesday I was listening to Lane Grindle on a.m. 1570. I believe Lane is a former USD track athlete who does a lot for USD related activities for the station (who hates SDSU). Whenever I travel through that area I try to catch his show and it seems he always mentions SDSU (and usually his distaste for Chris Solari). On Wednesday he had good reason to be talking about SDSU and our inking Kentucky for our season opener. He discussed how an SDSU fan would "spin" this opportunity, how he sees it, and how an SDSU "hater" would spin it. Not suprisingly his spin and the SDSU "hater" sounded remarkably similar. He ended the SDSU "hater's" spin by saying "we'll see you in 10 years when we have to go D1" which I got a laugh out of.

He went on to argue that the rivalry between SDSU and USD is even more of a rivalry now that we don't play each other so it can't be settled on the field. What do you all think? Is the rivalry now more intense than it ever was in the past? My opinion is that there is no more rivalry with usd, unless we play them again (usd will have to come to Brookings for that to happen).

Lane also said he checks out the board quite often so maybe he'll jump in and give his reasons as well.

I have also listened whenever in listening range of 1570 in Vermillion. Its a small station so this guy does not go very far in terms of area. I had no idea of his background and thanks for filling me in on that. USD being forced to go D1? That is awfully stated. USD seems to always find themselves being forced to take certain actions such as going to the BOR and legislature for the Dakota Dome roof and more recently the Medical building. Where is Brokaw, Neutharth and others when they really need them? Say what you want about the Kentucky game, SDSU has one on the schedule and USD does not even have Kentucky Weslyn on their schedule.

I would like to see USD do something progressive for once and do it because they were not forced to do it. ;D ;D

Rabbit74
07-17-2005, 05:36 AM
There is a series of good articles in the Fargo Forum today on the effect of NDSU and SDSU moving up on the athletic scene accross SD, ND, and MN. See the links below. (The first is to the Forum front page where the articles are highlighted and the the other three to the actual articles.)

http://www.in-forum.com

http://www.bisonzone.com/index.cfm?page=article_full&id=97889

http://www.bisonzone.com/index.cfm?page=article_full&id=97889

http://www.in-forum.com/articles/index.cfm?id=97890žion=Sports

89rabbit
07-18-2005, 05:14 AM
Wow, why does this "track guy" from San Diego hate us so much. I really don't remember having much of a rivalry with the Toreros . . . Oh wait are you guys talking about the D-II school down in Vermin, SD . . . oh, my bad. Maybe in the future we should refer to the Coyotes as USD-II so that we don't get them confused with the USD that plays D-I sports with us. ;) ;D


University of San Diego athletics site:

http://usdtoreros.collegesports.com/



Seriously, I am sure the University of Ohio thinks they have a rivalry with Ohio State, but the question is does Ohio State think they have a rivalry with the University of Ohio. I don't think so. Does Nebraska think that UNO (the one in Omaha, not New Orleans) is it's rival? Again, I don't think so. I already find myself hopeing that USD does well as they represent our great state of South Dakota. I have also meet several USD fans who feel the same about our Jackrabbits. Doesn't sound like much of a Rivalry any more. If USD-II ever made the jump to D-I then maybe they could be our rival again, but until then the only way for them to capture some of our glory is to pretend that there is still a special connection between their school and South Dakota's largest and only D-I University! My guess, 10 years from now folks in Vermillion will tell their kids how USD used to play in the same conference as SDSU and their kids will look at them in disbelief and say "no way, that must have been cool" and the USD adult will say "yup the Jackrabbits used to play right over there in that big Grain Bin that used to be a football field" to which the child will reply "cool". ;) 8)


Go State! ;D

Mavericks#1
07-18-2005, 06:15 AM
89 Rabbitt


Does Nebraska think that UNO (the one in Omaha, not New Orleans) is it's rival?




A UNO reference. I am impressed. Thanks for the love. I think you are finally starting to come around. I bet if we checked your closet amid all the rabbitt gear we would find a Maverick T- shirt that you wear when nobody is around. Isn't about time that you outed yourself as the closet UNO fan that you are?



Mavs #1

Rodentia
07-18-2005, 05:37 PM
If USD does move up in 10 years, they will simply be 10 years behind SDSU. By then, recruits will barely remember that SDSU used to be a D-II team. D-II teams just aren't rivals of D-I teams. In a few years, USD fans will probably also be following SDSU sports, just like students at any other D-II school follow D-I sports anywhere else in the country.

bigjake
07-19-2005, 06:42 AM
89, I don't think jk rowling has anything to fear but I do think you could have a future in fictional writing if you choose to change careers. You have a very active imagination. Great story about the usd-sdsu rivalry that used to be.

89rabbit
07-19-2005, 06:54 AM
There is that phrase "have to" again. Both UNO and USD fans want to move to D-I so bad it hurts. Oh sure you had your laughs during our first season with so many lower D-II and NAIA games on our schedules but then came year two with Kentucky, Ill., Minnesota, Nebraska, and Sweet 16 UW-Milwaukee coming to Brookings. The Women have the Crimson Tide of Alabama coming to Frost this season and the USC Trojans coming next and now it is not so funny. So all they can do is pray that we fail or hope that someone "makes them" go D-I. After all you need a way to save face after all the garbage they have put out there about the move to D-I.

Hate to tell you, but going D-I is hard, the good news for us is that SDSU is up to the task. No one is going to "make" either of you move up. You and your administrations will need to want it and then work hard to put all the pieces in place. I really doubt that either school is up to the task.

USD can't handle the D-II program they have (Title IX issues and funding issues) and UNO will always be the third team in Nebraska (at best) and the second class school in your own town.

But you guys keep watching, and waiting, I am sure the D-I fairy will swope down and tounch each of your schools with her magic wand and you will be transformed into D-I schools. Even though you really don't want to leave the paradise that D-II is becomings. ::)

http://www.humanesocietyyukon.ca/images/fairies-1.jpg
UNO and USD Wish List: Please make us big and strong so we can be D-I just like South Dakota State University, but tell everyone that you "made us" move to D-I so we don't look stupid.

Go State! ;D



*Note while typing a response to Big Jakes latest rantings he changed his post. He originally commented on my writting prowess, gave us a UMKC reference (thank goodness because it had been months since he did that) and went on to say that UNO would have to move up to D-I someday and how even if it was in 10 years from now they would be in better shape then us because they are in the mighty metropolis of Omaha. ::) What no conviction in the nonsense that you had just typed?

SDsportsFan
07-19-2005, 12:15 PM
For USD not being our rivals we sure do spend a lot of time talking about them. Do you think University of Nebraska fans spend this much time talking about UNO? If we really don't care about USD anymore then why do they so often seem to be the topic of conversation.

89rabbit
07-19-2005, 12:45 PM
Oh, I am pretty sure that if some clown got on the radio and started talking about how UNO and Nebraska are rivals there would be a pretty good chance that Cornhusker fans would be laughing at him on their board much the way we are here.

Go State! ;D

filbert
07-19-2005, 01:23 PM
For USD not being our rivals we sure do spend a lot of time talking about them. Do you think University of Nebraska fans spend this much time talking about UNO? If we really don't care about USD anymore then why do they so often seem to be the topic of conversation.

Because our friends from Nebraska keep wanting to bring them up.

MilwaukeeJacksAlum
07-19-2005, 02:02 PM
There is that phrase "have to" again. Both UNO and USD fans want to move to D-I so bad it hurts. Oh sure you had your laughs during our first season with so many lower D-II and NAIA games on our schedules but then came year two with Kentucky, Ill., Minnesota, Nebraska, and Sweet 16 UW-Milwaukee coming to Brookings. The Women have the Crimson Tide of Alabama coming to Frost this season and the USC Trojans coming next and now it is not so funny. So all they can do is pray that we fail or hope that someone "makes them" go D-I. After all you need a way to save face after all the garbage they have put out there about the move to D-I.

Hate to tell you, but going D-I is hard, the good news for us is that SDSU is up to the task. No one is going to "make" either of you move up. You and your administrations will need to want it and then work hard to put all the pieces in place. I really doubt that either school is up to the task.

USD can't handle the D-II program they have (Title IX issues and funding issues) and UNO will always be the third team in Nebraska (at best) and the second class school in your own town.

But you guys keep watching, and waiting, I am sure the D-I fairy will swope down and tounch each of your schools with her magic wand and you will be transformed into D-I schools. Even though you really don't want to leave the paradise that D-II is becomings. ::)

http://www.humanesocietyyukon.ca/images/fairies-1.jpg
UNO and USD Wish List: Please make us big and strong so we can be D-I just like South Dakota State University, but tell everyone that you "made us" move to D-I so we don't look stupid.

Go State! ;D



*Note while typing a response to Big Jakes latest rantings he changed his post. He originally commented on my writting prowess, gave us a UMKC reference (thank goodness because it had been months since he did that) and went on to say that UNO would have to move up to D-I someday and how even if it was in 10 years from now they would be in better shape then us because they are in the mighty metropolis of Omaha. ::) What no conviction in the nonsense that you had just typed?



All smack talking aside, 89 just hit the nail on the head. I'm sure Jake and Mav will try to argue against his above statement, but it would have to be a pretty good argument to disuade anyone that 89 is right. There's no bias in stating the obvious. The casual sports fan is going to have their interest perked when they see names like Kentucky and USC. Whether we win or lose.

My boss' kid is ranked in the top 250 basketball players in the US for upcoming seniors. When I printed him off a copy of the announcement that we're playing Kentucky and Illinois next year, my boss was legitimately excited. In his opinion, would he rather have his kid play for a UWMilwaukee or Butler who will play their conference schedules and other similarly ranked teams or would he rather have his kid play for SDSU and go up against the best of the best?

Most college athletes are going to end up like me pushing papers when they finish their collegiate athletic careers. Would you rather look back and remember how you played against Kentucky or University of Maine? That's a serious recruiting tool for players and fans alike. I'm proud of our athletic department for scheduling the teams they are. I can't wait to go to Kentucky, grab my two brother's-in-law and go to the Rupp arena to see the Jacks play!

jackrabbit1979
07-19-2005, 02:54 PM
My boss' kid is ranked in the top 250 basketball players in the US for upcoming seniors. When I printed him off a copy of the announcement that we're playing Kentucky and Illinois next year, my boss was legitimately excited. In his opinion, would he rather have his kid play for a UWMilwaukee or Butler who will play their conference schedules and other similarly ranked teams or would he rather have his kid play for SDSU and go up against the best of the best?



Milwaukee-
Make sure he has Coach Nagy's phone number and vice versa as well ;)

sports_buff
07-19-2005, 04:48 PM
All smack talking aside, 89 just hit the nail on the head. I'm sure Jake and Mav will try to argue against his above statement, but it would have to be a pretty good argument to disuade anyone that 89 is right. There's no bias in stating the obvious. The casual sports fan is going to have their interest perked when they see names like Kentucky and USC. Whether we win or lose.

My boss' kid is ranked in the top 250 basketball players in the US for upcoming seniors. When I printed him off a copy of the announcement that we're playing Kentucky and Illinois next year, my boss was legitimately excited. In his opinion, would he rather have his kid play for a UWMilwaukee or Butler who will play their conference schedules and other similarly ranked teams or would he rather have his kid play for SDSU and go up against the best of the best?

Most college athletes are going to end up like me pushing papers when they finish their collegiate athletic careers. Would you rather look back and remember how you played against Kentucky or University of Maine? That's a serious recruiting tool for players and fans alike. I'm proud of our athletic department for scheduling the teams they are. I can't wait to go to Kentucky, grab my two brother's-in-law and go to the Rupp arena to see the Jacks play!

I've seen it all. Now you guys are spinning it that it is a good thing you can't get into a conference. Thanks for the laugh. Tell Oien to quit working so hard to find a conference, apparantly you are better off without one.

SiouxFallsJack
07-19-2005, 08:35 PM
I've seen it all. Now you guys are spinning it that it is a good thing you can't get into a conference. Thanks for the laugh. Tell Oien to quit working so hard to find a conference, apparantly you are better off without one.



buff you missed the point of MilwaukeeJacks post, there is no spin involved. With or without a conference we are scheduling the best schools possible. This will continue once we are accepted into a conference. As 89Rabbit and others have said many times, "You have to play the best to be the best."

Remind me again, where did you receive your education? ::)

SDsportsFan
07-20-2005, 06:38 AM
buff you missed the point of MilwaukeeJacks post, there is no spin involved. With or without a conference we are scheduling the best schools possible. This will continue once we are accepted into a conference. As 89Rabbit and others have said many times, "You have to play the best to be the best."

Remind me again, where did you receive your education? ::)

Actually what I took from Milwaukee's post was that we are able to schedule the best teams because we don't have the restrictions of playing in a conference like Butler and UW-Milw, thereby making it a good thing that we aren't in a conference like those guys are. Milwaukee is right, if we were playing in the midcon or BigSky then we wouldn't have so many chances to schedule the big name teams. I do feel that he was saying we might be better off without a conference, maybe it was just a spin job, but I think he might be right.

jackmd
07-20-2005, 07:16 AM
I've seen it all. Now you guys are spinning it that it is a good thing you can't get into a conference. Thanks for the laugh. Tell Oien to quit working so hard to find a conference, apparantly you are better off without one.


Your little DII school is doing enough struggling. Worry more about that. Soon you'll be traveling to Washington for DII conference games. Work on spinning that. I'd be jealous if the yotes were playing Kentucky and Illinois but for now thats your problem.

jackmd
07-20-2005, 07:20 AM
For USD not being our rivals we sure do spend a lot of time talking about them. Do you think University of Nebraska fans spend this much time talking about UNO? If we really don't care about USD anymore then why do they so often seem to be the topic of conversation.

My next statement is an obvious one but some individuals here need the obvious stated.

The Huskers never played in the same conference as UNO. We are one year removed from the NCC and a major rivalry with USD. There is going to be interest in what USD and the NCC is doing. If this bothers you don't read the posts pertaining to USD or DII. I for one am interested.

JACKGUYII
07-20-2005, 07:22 AM
I have heard Nagy and Johnson comment that there is some upside to being independent like being able to potentially boost your RPI by playing unlimited nationally ranked schools. This is a time to get our program on the map of other DI schools and recruits. The conference will take care itself once we are tournament eligible.

MilwaukeeJacksAlum
07-20-2005, 08:40 AM
I've seen it all. Now you guys are spinning it that it is a good thing you can't get into a conference. Thanks for the laugh. Tell Oien to quit working so hard to find a conference, apparantly you are better off without one.


I wasn't trying to spin the non-conference angle. I hope we get into a conference and sooner rather than later. The stability gained by a conference affiliation is needed. However, I hope once we get into a conference we never stop trying to schedule the Kentucky's and Illinois of the country for our non-conference schedule. Scheduling the best of the best is going to bring in athletes who want to see how they stack up against the best. Going to Butler (or any team of the like) with the knowledge that they'll rarely ever see a team along the same quality as Kentucky or Illinois has to be a deterrant to most athletes.

Butler, with or without it's conference affiliation, does not go out of its way to schedule big name schools. SDSU has and hopefully will continue to do so. That's what I was touting.

joeybrownerhof
07-20-2005, 10:02 AM
I think Butler would love to play the likes of Kentucky and Illi, the problem for them is that those schools make it nearly impossible for Butler to schedule a game. Butler has built themselves into a solid midmajor club that is avoided since the BCS schools have too much to loose by playing them. No knock to State, but the BCS schools feel they have no risk (even though it would be great if State knocked them off). Gonzaga has gotten over that hump by having a consistent program year to year that the BSC schools don't feel a loss to them is so bad, and are willing to give some home and home games. however once you get your program to Butler's level you have some BCS schools backing away. I think it was on this board someone posted how Eddie Sutton at OKstate helped out a former assistant (now a head coach at a midmajor) by scheduling some games with his program, while other coaches were buying out the scheduled games with the midmajor.

filbert
07-20-2005, 11:04 AM
Geez, is this the first thread in the history of sports boards to have to be moved **out** of "Smack" due to reasonable content?

Thumper
07-20-2005, 11:23 AM
Butler and any other school is welcome to play in the Guardian's Classic....far from impossible. It is an exempt tournament. Your record will reflect the outcome but it has absolutely no effect on your RPI. I believe any team can play in an exempt tournament every four years. What better time for the Jacks to travel to Lexington?! Go Jacks!

joeybrownerhof
07-20-2005, 11:31 AM
Butler and any other school is welcome to play in the Guardian's Classic....far from impossible. It is an exempt tournament. Your record will reflect the outcome but it has absolutely no effect on your RPI. I believe any team can play in an exempt tournament every four years. What better time for the Jacks to travel to Lexington?! Go Jacks!

I agree Thumper, that Butler could play in Guardians, however Kentucky will not book them in the tourney and take the chance of loosing a game in their season (preseason) tourney. A couple of years ago Iowa got beat in their tourney, it was the first time ever (30+ games). It is a great tuneup for them and a good way to build some enthusiasm for the season. (and yes I realize the Guardian is not Kentucky centric, however they do have a say to who is in their pod)

sports_buff
07-20-2005, 01:32 PM
My next statement is an obvious one but some individuals here need the obvious stated.

The Huskers never played in the same conference as UNO. We are one year removed from the NCC and a major rivalry with USD. There is going to be interest in what USD and the NCC is doing. If this bothers you don't read the posts pertaining to USD or DII. I for one am interested.

So you admit you are interested in USD. Not to speak for SportsFan but I think thats what he was getting at. So many people on this site, Jack included, act like they don't care what is going on at USD and other DII schools, then they proceed to talk about them constantly. Correct me if I'm wrong SportsFan but it seems that you were calling people out who were acting like they don't care about USD then proceed to talk about them. At least you got JackMD to now admit that he does indeed care about USD.

jackmd
07-20-2005, 01:50 PM
So you admit you are interested in USD. Not to speak for SportsFan but I think thats what he was getting at. So many people on this site, Jack included, act like they don't care what is going on at USD and other DII schools, then they proceed to talk about them constantly. Correct me if I'm wrong SportsFan but it seems that you were calling people out who were acting like they don't care about USD then proceed to talk about them. At least you got JackMD to now admit that he does indeed care about USD.


I can't help but be interested in USD given the ongoing discussions about my future role as an instructor for the school of medicine. In addition, I get regular phone calls soliciting donations as well as mailings updating me on current events at USD. I find no shame in that interest and don't understand why anyone else would. I'm with 89 here, any success for USD would reflect positively on SD. I don't think success at USD in anyway connotates failure at SDSU or vice versa. Wishing ill to one another either way reflects a weakness in personality.

joeybrownerhof
07-20-2005, 01:53 PM
So you admit you are interested in USD. Not to speak for SportsFan but I think thats what he was getting at. So many people on this site, Jack included, act like they don't care what is going on at USD and other DII schools, then they proceed to talk about them constantly. Correct me if I'm wrong SportsFan but it seems that you were calling people out who were acting like they don't care about USD then proceed to talk about them. At least you got JackMD to now admit that he does indeed care about USD.


There is a difference between being interested and caring. I am interested when I see an old sweetchuck at the bar to see how things are going for her, but at the same time I don't really care how how things are going for her. And I laugh and think she is pathetic when she whines to me that I still care about her. Get the point sportsbuff

sports_buff
07-20-2005, 02:30 PM
I can't help but be interested in USD given the ongoing discussions about my future role as an instructor for the school of medicine. In addition, I get regular phone calls soliciting donations as well as mailings updating me on current events at USD. I find no shame in that interest and don't understand why anyone else would. I'm with 89 here, any success for USD would reflect positively on SD. I don't think success at USD in anyway connotates failure at SDSU or vice versa. Wishing ill to one another either way reflects a weakness in personality.


I for one certainly don't think you should feel ashamed for your interest in USD. I do agree that it makes since that you would be interested. I don't know why it took you so long to admit it. I remember reading one post where you told SportsFan to worry about DII teams on his own time, not yours. Thats why I found it very ironic to read your post today telling SportsFan why you are interested in USD and that if he doesn't like it he shouldn't read the posts.
I would love it if you get that job at USD, they only thing better than that would be for Mav#1 to get a job at SDSU.

89rabbit
07-20-2005, 07:34 PM
Well looks who is back. Everyone's favorite USD grad and rumor monger. ;)


Go State! ;D

89rabbit
07-20-2005, 08:33 PM
Your little DII school is doing enough struggling. Worry more about that. Soon you'll be traveling to Washington for DII conference games. Work on spinning that. I'd be jealous if the yotes were playing Kentucky and Illinois but for now thats your problem.

Looks like as soon as 2006 for football.

http://www.in-forum.com/articles/index.cfm?id=98166&section=Sports (sub. site but it's free)

Washington schools ready to join NCC
By Eric Peterson, The Forum
Published Wednesday, July 20, 2005

Two Washington state colleges are reportedly ready to join the North Central Conference in football only, but the league's commissioner said Tuesday nothing has been finalized.

"We do not have a signed agreement," NCC Commissioner Roger Thomas said. "We have laid out some things and had several discussions. We've been trying to set up some scheduling alliance for football."

KVHT-AM - a Yankton, S.D., radio station - reported that Central Washington and Western Washington will join the NCC in football starting with the 2006 season. . . .

Making existing schedules fit together and increasing travel costs are two main concerns in getting a deal done, Thomas said. . . .

Athletic directors at Western Washington and Central Washington could not be reached for comment Tuesday.

An NCAA Division II conference, the NCC was left with seven members after Northern Colorado, North Dakota State and South Dakota State jumped to NCAA Division I. . . .



Go State! ;D

Rabbitlivinginverm
07-24-2005, 09:38 AM
Wow, why does this "track guy" from San Diego hate us so much. I really don't remember having much of a rivalry with the Toreros . . . Oh wait are you guys talking about the D-II school down in Vermin, SD . . . oh, my bad. Maybe in the future we should refer to the Coyotes as USD-II so that we don't get them confused with the USD that plays D-I sports with us. ;) ;D


University of San Diego athletics site:

http://usdtoreros.collegesports.com/



Seriously, I am sure the University of Ohio thinks they have a rivalry with Ohio State, but the question is does Ohio State think they have a rivalry with the University of Ohio. I don't think so. Does Nebraska think that UNO (the one in Omaha, not New Orleans) is it's rival? Again, I don't think so. I already find myself hopeing that USD does well as they represent our great state of South Dakota. I have also meet several USD fans who feel the same about our Jackrabbits. Doesn't sound like much of a Rivalry any more. If USD-II ever made the jump to D-I then maybe they could be our rival again, but until then the only way for them to capture some of our glory is to pretend that there is still a special connection between their school and South Dakota's largest and only D-I University! My guess, 10 years from now folks in Vermillion will tell their kids how USD used to play in the same conference as SDSU and their kids will look at them in disbelief and say "no way, that must have been cool" and the USD adult will say "yup the Jackrabbits used to play right over there in that big Grain Bin that used to be a football field" to which the child will reply "cool". ;) 8)


Go State! ;D



I was again traveling I-90 west from Sx Falls last Wednesday (got home at 3:30 this morning :() so I happened to tune in to 1570, just to see what's happening. And guess what, Lane Grindle was so excited that there is a thread on the SDSU message board all about him! He even came up with his all new "Message board post of the day!" (Congrats 89, your above post won the inagural award). I can't really remember what he was saying because I was laughing so hard! Anyway, he did say that his purpose as a radio host was to inspire debate and get people talking so I guess he did his job (Albeit this thread that's "basically about me (Lane Grindle)" seems to have been hijacked by some good conversation.

(Lane, keep doing what your doing buddy. I seriously do enjoy listening to your show when I can get a signal. Seems like I have to be awfully close to Yankton/Vermillion to get it though :-/)

filbert
07-24-2005, 10:10 AM
Lane Grindle was so exited that there is a thread on the SDSU message board all about him!

"You're so vain, you probably think this thread is about you . . . "

jackmd
07-24-2005, 01:48 PM
"You're so vain, you probably think this thread is about you . . . "


Enough said!!