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WestSideRabbit
05-11-2015, 12:37 PM
Randy Reinhardt, beat writer who covers Illinois St. tweeted that Marshaun Coprich has been suspended indefinitely.

BIG loss for the Red Birds.

https://twitter.com/Pg_Reinhardt/status/597814464000434176

CappinHard
05-11-2015, 12:41 PM
According to Craig Haley of TSN: "Illinois St. football coach Brock Spack has announced an indefinite suspension of running back Marshaun Coprich." https://twitter.com/CraigHaley/status/597813940039614464

Yikes.

CappinHard
05-11-2015, 12:47 PM
You beat me to it by 4 minutes :p. Craig Haley of TSN also tweeted about it. https://twitter.com/CraigHaley/status/597813940039614464

Crazy, will be interesting to hear the reason. Not sure if we will ever hear the whole truth though.

Nidaros
05-11-2015, 12:53 PM
You beat me to it by 4 minutes :p. Craig Haley of TSN also tweeted about it. https://twitter.com/CraigHaley/status/597813940039614464

Crazy, will be interesting to hear the reason. Not sure if we will ever hear the whole truth though.

The follow up tweet I assume is an attempt at humor, but this guy did seem to have some kind of an attitude. Schmidt happens.

CappinHard
05-11-2015, 12:57 PM
Looks like it's linked to recent drug charges. Got caught dealing some weed. http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/news/news.aspx?id=822962

JimmyJack
05-11-2015, 01:42 PM
Dumb decision there by a 20-year-old. Hopefully, he'll get himself straightened out.

gobigblue
05-11-2015, 09:30 PM
Not good news for the Redbirds.

da_coach
05-13-2015, 02:12 PM
from... http://www.pantagraph.com/sports/college/football/isu-all-american-running-back-coprich-suspended-indefinitely/article_fcfab709-60ce-5081-a3fe-a4c74906ff1d.html

"According to McLean County Circuit Court records, Coprich is charged with delivery of more than 10 but less than 30 grams of marijuana, a Class 4 felony.

Charges state that Coprich sold marijuana to a police informant. An arraignment is set for May 22. Coprich was released on bond after posting $2,025."

Hareofthedog
05-13-2015, 06:48 PM
The Redbirds are use to having players in trouble and take FBS players in trouble so what do you expect from the birds, trouble. The AD and President must not care or they would correct the recruiting and transfer of players with "shady" past. They should also send a message to the head coach but winning is the only message sent. This isn't the first player there to get arrested, suspended or kicked off.

SDSUAlum08
05-22-2015, 11:01 AM
Coprich has been reinstated. I believe he plead guilty and got two years probation.

Surprising.

MontanaRabbit
05-22-2015, 11:24 AM
Coprich has been reinstated. I believe he plead guilty and got two years probation.

Surprising.

Unfortunately, I'm not one bit surprised. If you have talent, you can get away with a lot.

I'm all for second chances, but he was dealing weed. I would think a suspension would at least be in order. What kind of message does this send? I think it's safe to say he'd no longer be a Jackrabbit had this happened in Brookings.

jacks1
05-22-2015, 11:35 AM
Unfortunately, I'm not one bit surprised. If you have talent, you can get away with a lot.

I'm all for second chances, but he was dealing weed. I would think a suspension would at least be in order. What kind of message does this send? I think it's safe to say he'd no longer be a Jackrabbit had this happened in Brookings.
We did have a vital member of our basketball squad the last 2 yrs that got more than a second chance. Not necessarily apples to apples, but still...

MontanaRabbit
05-22-2015, 11:49 AM
We did have a vital member of our basketball squad the last 2 yrs that got more than a second chance. Not necessarily apples to apples, but still...

Not even close to apples to apples. It was what a couple years after Cody's troubles? Not to mention there was some intense scrutiny by all involved over the decision to bring Cody in. Cody had a chance to learn and grow after his troubles. He essentially lost his scholarship at Florida over his decisions.

Coprich pleads guilty to dealing drugs and is immediately reinstated. Maybe there is a suspension coming, but I read an article and I didn't get the feeling that was coming. I'm guessing if he's a third string lineman he's no longer on the team.

FargoBison
05-22-2015, 12:13 PM
ISU like their starting RB did not show good judgement here, suspend him for a game or two.

Bohl tossed a starting receiver off the team a few years ago because he did something similar.

SlapJack
05-22-2015, 12:34 PM
How about a comparison to Charles Elmore? He broke team rules (twice?) and was off the team. I do not know and will not speculate what Elmore did, but it apparently was serious enough.

IMO, being arrested (and convicted) on criminal charges is a much bigger deal than breaking team rules, but maybe ISU-r doesn't have a team rule against dealing weed.

Nidaros
05-22-2015, 01:28 PM
I visited the Dykhouse yesterday to exchange my donors gift for DMC. It was the wrong size. Coach Stig was in so I gave a light tap on his door and was told to come in. We visited about my trip to Norway last fall for a while. I noticed his Selby Lions Helmet and asked him if he found any more good football players out that way just vaguely recalling one recruit from Selby last year. He said he had one from last year who messed up and was no longer in the program. He felt bad for him and thought he was a great kid, it was just matter of running with the wrong crowd and making bad choices. I not going to mention his name here. In fact I had to look it up in last years media guide, but the point I am making is that with 100 or more guys you are bound to have someone make some bad choices along the way. Coaches deal with this stuff all the time. Elmore???? I did not dare to ask. I left with a hearty handshake and wished him well for this season.

MontanaRabbit
05-22-2015, 02:02 PM
How about a comparison to Charles Elmore? He broke team rules (twice?) and was off the team. I do not know and will not speculate what Elmore did, but it apparently was serious enough.

IMO, being arrested (and convicted) on criminal charges is a much bigger deal than breaking team rules, but maybe ISU-r doesn't have a team rule against dealing weed.

I'd like to add it was a felony as well.

It's this part of our soceity where no one wants to accept responsibility for their actions.

Did anyone happen to see the response from the mom of the kid who killed the cop in Omaha?

http://www.keloland.com/newsdetail.cfm/alleged-omaha-cop-killer-defends-her-son/?id=180344

"Let me say this," Kiner said. "My son was not violent and he was not a part of a gang. If a person does something to us we respond to it. We react to it."

Really? You react to the police trying to arrest your son by killing one of them?

TK22867
05-22-2015, 03:03 PM
I'd like to add it was a felony as well.

It's this part of our soceity where no one wants to accept responsibility for their actions.



I did not quote the second part of your response for a reason. I think you should stick to the ISU-R situation here for fear of taking this board in a direction we do not want to go.

Regarding dealing marijuana, I think you're overreacting a bit. Marijuana is now legalized for recreational use in 4-states: Washington, Oregon, Colorado, and Alaska, and I present that info as a frame of reference here. Is what he did illegal? Yes. Should he be suspended a game or 2? Yes. Should he be kicked off the team and noted as "forever uncleeeeeeeeeeeeeean"? Absolutely not.

If he was doing the Tony Montana thing and calling people cakkka-roaches my answer would be different.

OldHare
05-22-2015, 03:40 PM
I did not quote the second part of your response for a reason. I think you should stick to the ISU-R situation here for fear of taking this board in a direction we do not want to go.

Regarding dealing marijuana, I think you're overreacting a bit. Marijuana is now legalized for recreational use in 4-states: Washington, Oregon, Colorado, and Alaska, and I present that info as a frame of reference here. Is what he did illegal? Yes. Should he be suspended a game or 2? Yes. Should he be kicked off the team and noted as "forever uncleeeeeeeeeeeeeean"? Absolutely not.

If he was doing the Tony Montana thing and calling people cakkka-roaches my answer would be different.
Legally speaking, it is a felony. If there was a young man at SDSU who committed a felony, would he be reinstated immediately? Brookings is not Normal and I SPECULATE that there would be more resistance to a clean return. It goes to the crux for much of the law that involves intent and historical behavior. He was selling illegal drugs to an undercover officer. Fortunately, Coprich has the opportunity to stay clean and remove the felony from his permanent record. The legalized argument for 4 states that have a relaxed approach to recreational use is at best weak/not relevant. The metal of the coaching staff at ISU-r will be under the microscope.

MontanaRabbit
05-22-2015, 03:54 PM
I did not quote the second part of your response for a reason. I think you should stick to the ISU-R situation here for fear of taking this board in a direction we do not want to go.

Regarding dealing marijuana, I think you're overreacting a bit. Marijuana is now legalized for recreational use in 4-states: Washington, Oregon, Colorado, and Alaska, and I present that info as a frame of reference here. Is what he did illegal? Yes. Should he be suspended a game or 2? Yes. Should he be kicked off the team and noted as "forever uncleeeeeeeeeeeeeean"? Absolutely not.

If he was doing the Tony Montana thing and calling people cakkka-roaches my answer would be different.

Please show me where I said he should have been kicked off the team and been noted as forever unclean.

joeboo22
05-22-2015, 04:58 PM
1st of all I really don't care about dealing a lil weed. Many times with drug crimes you can make them sound a bunch worse then they actually are. So I'll give them the benefit of the doubt on that one.

However they get a zero for public relations. You suspend someone indefinitely you don't reinstate them 2 weeks later (or at the very least you don't announce it that quickly). You tell the recruit you are fine, but we aren't going to reinstate you until the middle of June to save a little face. You do it in June and nobody really notices.

As for what SDSU does, blah blah blah, well many times you are comparing Oranges to Pickles and they just don't match, obviously someone with talent gets a few more chances, but the individual incident always factors into it, and so on.

Nidaros
05-22-2015, 05:31 PM
I'd like to add it was a felony as well.

It's this part of our soceity where no one wants to accept responsibility for their actions.

Did anyone happen to see the response from the mom of the kid who killed the cop in Omaha?

http://www.keloland.com/newsdetail.cfm/alleged-omaha-cop-killer-defends-her-son/?id=180344

"Let me say this," Kiner said. "My son was not violent and he was not a part of a gang. If a person does something to us we respond to it. We react to it."

Really? You react to the police trying to arrest your son by killing one of them?

This guy will get his day in court, and with a state that believes strongly in the death penalty, its going to take a Clarence Darrow to save his life. White cop, black killer, a slam dunk by jury. Some will even want to pull the lever, on old sparky.

Getting back to ISU-Red, the coach is not a Stig by any means. I think he will win at any cost even giving whats his name a second chance.

RabbitObsessed
05-22-2015, 05:41 PM
Please show me where I said he should have been kicked off the team and been noted as forever unclean.

Well you indirectly compared him to a guy who killed a cop.

Something, something, drug war is stupid, something politics, I'm done with this thread.

MontanaRabbit
05-22-2015, 05:49 PM
Well you indirectly compared him to a guy who killed a cop.

Something, something, drug war is stupid, something politics, I'm done with this thread.

I made absolutely no comparison between the two acts or individuals. You may want to read my post again.

I was pointing out how our soceity doesn't like to accept responsibility for their actions or hold some (famous, rich, talented) accountable.

jackrabit1
05-24-2015, 03:33 PM
This is an apolitical site... No politics allowed!

After all, we're not Deadspin.

OldHare
05-24-2015, 07:25 PM
This is an apolitical site... No politics allowed!

After all, we're not Deadspin.
http://www.moviewavs.com/php/sounds/?id=bst&media=MP3S&type=Movies&movie=Dragnet&quote=facts.txt&file=facts.mp3

jackrabit1
05-24-2015, 08:04 PM
http://www.moviewavs.com/php/sounds/?id=bst&media=MP3S&type=Movies&movie=Dragnet"e=facts.txt&file=facts.mp3

You realize that line was never used in the series, right?

OldHare
05-24-2015, 08:43 PM
You realize that line was never used in the series, right?

And the point is????
http://www.snopes.com/radiotv/tv/dragnet.asp

Nidaros
05-25-2015, 06:31 AM
And the point is????
http://www.snopes.com/radiotv/tv/dragnet.asp

I know its a slow time of the year, but we are debating "Just the Facts madam" from Dragnet?

jackrabit1
05-25-2015, 02:14 PM
I know its a slow time of the year, but we are debating "Just the Facts madam" from Dragnet?

Pretty much.

Nidaros
05-25-2015, 03:37 PM
Pretty much.

Oh well!! nap time.

Nidaros
05-25-2015, 03:58 PM
I made absolutely no comparison between the two acts or individuals. You may want to read my post again.

I was pointing out how our soceity doesn't like to accept responsibility for their actions or hold some (famous, rich, talented) accountable.

I get your point and though I don't agree with it. I think I would be remiss if I did not include comments about This Week ABC news which took me by total surprise. I lived in Nebraska 1985 through 2005 and in that time period, Senator Ernie Chambers introduced legislation to repeal the death penalty only to have it killed in committee or tabled. Nebraska is Big Red in football and politics. This past week, the Unicameral voted with Ernie and passed a bill to repeal the Death Penalty. The Governor is going to veto this legislation but those who voted for the bill feel they have enough votes to override the veto. So here these rough and tough guys from Nebraska have done a 180 on a very controversial issue. And parents and others are getting soft? My point is that we have a history of trying to legislate morals and have failed time and time again. Drugs are part of this mess we have to deal with. Stig I am sure would not be giving Coprich a second chance, not based on my personal conversation with him last week. Even being from Selby does not help.

I think Coach Spock and the administration at ISU Red have made their decision and will have to live with it. I would think with their finish in 2014, things are looking good out that way.

Do we get a break from playing ISU-Red this year? Seems like we do.

Hammersmith
05-25-2015, 09:38 PM
Do we get a break from playing ISU-Red this year? Seems like we do.

Nope. Second year of NDSU/ISUr not playing. You guys don't play SIU again. Next year everyone switches.

Nidaros
05-25-2015, 10:26 PM
Nope. Second year of NDSU/ISUr not playing. You guys don't play SIU again. Next year everyone switches.

I did check GoJacks.com and noted that we play ISU-R on Nov 7. I should have checked my schedule first. Thanks for the correction though.

da_coach
05-27-2015, 10:18 AM
It's up to each coaching staff to deal with each situation like this on their own.

As far as Illinois State's coaching staff? I think they were in the Championship game last year, I don't think they will be on the hot seat for giving a star player a second chance.

jackdaniel
05-27-2015, 11:53 AM
It's up to each coaching staff to deal with each situation like this on their own.

As far as Illinois State's coaching staff? I think they were in the Championship game last year, I don't think they will be on the hot seat for giving a star player a second chance.

Decisions by Coaching staff can always be trumped by higher authority, depending on circumstances , like the need to protect the schools image to the public eye,for instance.The coaching staff isn't the final word,at least that's my opinion.

Nidaros
05-27-2015, 12:36 PM
Decisions by Coaching staff can always be trumped by higher authority, depending on circumstances , like the need to protect the schools image to the public eye,for instance.The coaching staff isn't the final word,at least that's my opinion.

True, but I think in this case a National Championship is riding on this one player. The desire to win often trumps image, and I guessing it has here.